The Wii U does a poor job distinguishing itself from the Wii

Sexy_beast
Wednesday, November 21, 2012
EDITOR'S NOTEfrom Jason Lomberg

Nintendo's marketing efforts for the Wii U are eerily reminiscent of its previous outreach for the Wii. Unfortunately, the Wii owes much of its success to casual gamers, who might balk at ponying up $300 for another console so soon and -- as Ryan explains -- may not understand the distinction between the two platforms.

Wii U controller

This "blue ocean" that Nintendo is so fond of can't be fished clean. The name exists for a reason: It's that untapped market with a seemingly limitless potential for financial growth. The issue with the ocean, though, is that it's big ... really big. More importantly, fish, much like the blue ocean's consumers, are fleeting little creatures; they seldom stay in a single spot for too long.

It's not farfetched to say that the Wii U aims to mimic the success of its predecessor, right down to the last middle-aged tuna. Even the marketing campaign shares a close resemblance, making this new console less about you the gamer and more about we the family.

My concern, though, is that the very nature of the demographic that made the Wii such a success seems to escape Nintendo's understanding. This is the group of consumers that saw gaming's seminal years as a mere fad and left it to rot when the trend lost steam. This same group similarly regarded the Pet Rock, Tickle Me Elmo, and the RoboSapien ... never to look back.

 

These folks aren't dedicated gamers and are likewise unaware of the customs, commonalities, and differences that we know of between games and gaming hardware. And, as Nintendo again casts its line out to them, the bait being used doesn't seem to consider these variables.

Wii logos

"Wii would like to play." "Play what?" "Play U." "You mean Mii?" "FFFFUUUU!!!!"


They came, they saw, they moved on

Whether or not Nintendo fans want to believe it, the fact remains that the Wii was a runaway hit due to a short burst of popularity among casual and non-gamers. That, coupled with the fact that Nintendo sometimes sells its hardware above the manufacturing cost, and they certainly had a fleeting Midas touch, turning everything into gold.

While it would be foolish to assume Nintendo needs to nail that same audience to experience similar success, that seems to be what they're attempting, nonetheless. But is that audience going to bite? To get a better idea of what the answer to that might be, I asked around.

I went to shopping centers close to game retailers and asked 50 casual-gaming Wii owners if they knew/cared at all about the Wii U; their ages ranged between 35 to 58. Unsurprisingly, only eight of them knew what it was, and even fewer cared to learn more about it; explaining it to some individuals beckoned expressions of blatant disinterest.

One women I spoke with asked me, "Why would they think I'd buy it again? I already own a Wii." This is a reaction I was expecting; she, along with others, didn't understand the distinction between the two consoles.

Such disinterest and confusion is important to note, because this directly affects the outcome of sales among the casual crowd. If mom, dad, grandma, or grandpa don't know what the heck it is or even care to find out, they obviously won't take the next, most important step -- buying it.

It also needs to be said that, while the above case of confusion between brands will likely be common among non-gamers, it's not entirely due to sheer ignorance. Nintendo's marketing has been incredibly blurry between the Wii U and its predecessor.

Advertisements for both Wii systems

Advertisements for both systems.


Same as the old boss

When rumors and leaked concept designs of the Wii U first circulated in 2011, my original thought was, "Since they gained some notoriety with the group-oriented experience of the Wii, they're probably going to focus on the individual now." In accordance with that, I also suspected they would name it "Yuu" or something similar. I wasn't exactly correct.

The Wii U has been presented in what is arguably the direct shadow of the Wii. Its advertising predominantly emphasizes fun, party like entertainment value, albeit with some slight separation (three others against the one with the special controller). Even the Wii U logo, itself, is only slightly different from its Wii precursor.

I've heard some concerns from other gamers regarding the possibility of the Wii U being confused for a mere peripheral add-on. I, too, had this worry, which was only amplified when a few of the casual and non-gamers I spoke with actively mistook the new system for a simple controller addition.

And why is such misinformation the case? Because the Wii U's initial image is that big ol' controller they hope will drive most of the intrigue. Sure, that works for us hobbyists who have studied the hardware and know what we're getting before it arrives, but relatively unsavvy consumers who "shop by the box" are used to seeing a big DVD player-like machine on the front of console packaging.

These people aren't educated in the trends and changes of this industry and medium, so they'll likely make assumptions of their own if they notice something out of step.

Wii U photobomb

What an age: consoles resorting to photobombs.


A poor catch doesn't mean a torn net

Before some of you unsheathe your cutlery, I need to make one important thing clear: This isn't a commentary on the quality of the Wii U ... at all. The system is only a few days old. Games make the console, and plenty of time remains for Nintendo to provide some great titles.

I won't lie: I wasn't a large fan of the Wii (I abhor motion controls), but a part of me might consider picking up its successor, should it provide a variety of good software.

I'm already a gamer, though. People like me buy these things; it's what we do. And we were but a small reason for the Wii's notable spike in sales. It's unclear as to whether or not Nintendo will be able to hook the other significantly large chunk of that equation. From what I've seen, I have my doubts.

It shouldn't be too surprising if the Wii U doesn't retain the top spot in the coming generation.

 
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Comments (19)
Bizzle
November 21, 2012

Excellent piece, Ryan. Very well done. I haven't been in Nintendo's camp since Gamecube and it's all been due to lack of software. I'm interested to see how well the WiiU does in the long run. 

Default_picture
November 26, 2012

The wii u is sold out, sold more than the wii at launch and you write this garbage?

 

Come on. Your better than this

 

The wii u is almost guarenteed to be 1 in consoles this gen

Sexy_beast
November 26, 2012

It's videogames; basically every console is guaranteed to sell out at launch, especially around the holidays.

Do you have any evidence besides launch that the Wii U will retain the #1 spot? Because the original Wii didn't; the 360 took that spot, eventually. The Wii's sales dropped drastically, once the appeal wore off with casual gamers.

Do you know the degree of AAA third-party support the Wii U will have? Because the Wii's was quite sparse. Do you know whether it'll snatch that "hardcore audience" it claims it will do every year? Because the Wii let it slip through its fingers. Will Nintendo release any new IPs? Minus Wii Sports, the Wii had none.

My evidence seems a bit more compelling than yours.

Default_picture
November 26, 2012

My evidence is anything nintendo touches is at LEAST second in profit 1 time in a gen. Every single system

 

Thats my evidence

"the original Wii didn't; the 360 took that spot, eventually. "

 

When the wii u got announced. It wouldnt have if it wasnt for that

 

the wii was the number 1 console global for 6 years. 360 took it 1 year, now it looks like the ps3 will take it, and then wii u 

 

"Because the Wii's was quite sparse. "

 

The wii was 90 percent third party exclusive. EXCLUSIVE

 

oh, you write here now? You were known as a nintendo hater before they fired you from destructoid for your ridiculous twitter comments

Sexy_beast
November 26, 2012

To your first point: Gamecube. Nintendo lost around $180 million every year during that gen.

Second: So you're saying the only reason the 360 sold better was because another company announced a system? That doesn't make much sense, unless you're implying people stopped buying Wiis in anticipation for the Wii U.

Third: The Wii was first in console sales, not software. In fact, minus first-party releases, the Wii had embarassingly poor software sales.

Fourth: That "90% exclusive" (where did you get this stat, by the way?) was mainly shovelware from companies that were trying to bank on the casual hype of the Wii. Of course they weren't going to release on the more traditional 360 and PS3.

Default_picture
November 26, 2012

Nintendo made nothing but profit last gen. The gamecube made profit day 1, and the 80 mil selling gba made nothing but profit

 

2) Thats exactly what I am saying

 

3) The wii had the highest first party and third party exclusive sales of the entire gen. Nothing even came close.

Capcom, square, namco, and any jp dev wouldnt put anything exclusive on the other consoles because it wasnt as lucrative

90 percent is gauging the gamefaqs game list, excluding minigame games. 

Sexy_beast
November 26, 2012

 

Yeah...might want to check up on that gamecube stuff.

Here: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=4178#.ULQXd4eumU0

Yearly loses during the time of both GC and the GBA.

Also:

http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

The Gamecube was the worst-selling console of that generation.

And you're actually right, the Wii did have superior software sales, by over 100 million worlwide. Only 10 Mil in North America, though, which isn't that much -- so that "nothing even came close" is debatable.

And you're forgetting that games from those companies made into onto the 360 and PS3, yet not on the Wii. So that "wasn't as lucrative" argument sort of flies out the window there.

Sexy_beast
November 26, 2012

Bah! You know what, I made a booboo. Vgchartz tallies up the total number of Wii Sports sales, which is included with the Wii -- I find that kind of fatuous.

So, those Wii software numbers are significantly higher than they should be.

Default_picture
November 26, 2012

At least you manned up on your fake vgchart numbers.

 

Those gamasutra numbers are also misleading. They werent taking a loss, they were simply making less profit.

 

There first actual loss was last year. 

 

The bottom line is the third parties put all there major hitters ( jaoanese companies) on wii exclusively. 

Sexy_beast
November 26, 2012

I need to clarify: Subtract the total sales of Wii Sports from the total Wii software sales, then you'll have a better idea of how well it did.

"...Nintendo is currently losing ¥20 billion ($180.8m) each year on Nintendo hardware."

Doesn't seem too misleading to me.

Uhh...Final Fantasy XIII wasn't a major hitter? That didn't make it onto the Wii. Nor did Street Fighter IV, Devil May Cry, Resident Evil 5 & 6, Soul Calibur IV & V, Street Fighter X Tekken, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Tekken 6, Hitman: Absolution, Sleeping Dogs...the list goes on.

Default_picture
November 26, 2012

dragon quest X according to square is on pace to be its most profitable game of all time. OF ALL TIME. No ff 13 wasnt a major hitter. And I can basically knock down each of your other titles too 

 

It is misleading. They werent taking a loss. They were just making less profit. The gamecube and gba were profitable day 1 

Sexy_beast
November 26, 2012

Sounds to me like you're just refuting for the sake of it, Tanto.

All of those titles sold well, particularly in relation to others that didn't have such established reputations and audiences. And none of them were on the Wii -- likely because the publishers knew the audience that would most likely buy them wouldn't care so much about playing them on the Wii.

You can say "it's misleading" all you want, but, by the end of the day, I've provided evidence. I'm more than welcome to concede that you're right (as I have with the Wii's software sales), but only if you provide refuting evidence.

You just saying things isn't going to cut it. Sorry.

Default_picture
November 27, 2012

I am refuting because I think your wrong, Otherwise I would of just ignored this article. The highest selling first and third party exclusives of this gen were all wii exclusives, every one of them. 

Sexy_beast
November 27, 2012

No offense, but if I give you numbers and evidence, what you merely believe doesn't really hold up. You could believe Nintendo will dominate a small island and start its own country, but such a thought doesn't mean much without the ownership papers and Hyrule Constitution to prove it.

I'm glad you have such reverence for Nintendo, but you don't seem to have much else. I've given you plenty of examples of not only Nintendo's past failures (which you blatantly ignored), but also how they didn't really have much AAA third part support -- great sales or not.

And of course they have the best-selling first party titles; it's Nintendo!

I will gladly concede, should the future show that Nintendo's success is repeated with the Wii U, but...I'm afraid you don't have much else than wishful thinking and a long time to wait.

Sorry, man.

Default_picture
November 27, 2012

The bottom line is your numbers are basically fabricated. 

 

Nintendo hasnt had a loss since last year in there entire history. Thats a fact

 

1) The wii u is selling ridiculously well in the us

2) When it launches in japan, it will be the number 1 console easily.

3) When the other systems launch not only will it be cheaper for the consumer. But cheaper for the developers

 

Basically the only fact is historical precident. The weaker systems ALWAYS sell the most

Whether we are talking portable or console, its been 100 percent

Sexy_beast
November 27, 2012

Here's another article, courtesy of the fine people of...well, this place:

http://venturebeat.com/2012/11/27/xbox-360-nearly-doubles-the-sales-of-the-wii-u-during-the-week-of-black-friday/

Default_picture
November 27, 2012

 

And this matters why?

The wii u sold out. It didnt have 400k+ in stock available. This is the second highest nintendo launch ever. Thats fantastic.

 

You know what the 360's first black friday looked like?

290k while 3 other systems did a mil ( ps2,ds,gba)

This black friday nintendo sold OVER A MILLION IN HARDWARE.

More than any of the other companies bottom line

I quote the article

 

"comparing apples to pomegranates that are out of season and are difficult for consumers to find at the store. "

 

Did you even read the article?

 

 

You cant compare launch figures to discounted figures of an item thats basically in stock. 

 

The ps3 did 150k during its black friday

The 360 did 290k during its black friday

The wii u did 400k

 

 

 
 
 
Your going to tell me this negative slant means something?And this matters why?
 
 
The wii u sold out. It didnt have 400k+ in stock available.  This is the second highest nintendo launch ever. Thats fantastic. 
 
 
 
You know what the 360's first black friday looked like?
 
290k while 3 other systems did a mil ( ps2,ds,gba)
 
This black friday nintendo sold OVER A MILLION IN HARDWARE.
 
More than any of the other companies bottom line
 
 
 
Your going to tell me this negative slant means something?
And this matters why?
 
 
The wii u sold out. It didnt have 400k+ in stock available.  This is the second highest nintendo launch ever. Thats fantastic. 
 
 
 
You know what the 360's first black friday looked like?
 
290k while 3 other systems did a mil ( ps2,ds,gba)
 
This black friday nintendo sold OVER A MILLION IN HARDWARE.
 
More than any of the other companies bottom line
 
 
 
Your going to tell me this negative slant means something?
Sexy_beast
November 27, 2012

Bleh, I give up. Obviously no amount of numbers will matter to you; you're just going to dismiss them.

Whatevs. No skin off my back.

Keep the faith, my man.

Default_picture
November 27, 2012

The article YOU linked to said you cant compare the numbers.  Yet you want me to compare them like they mean something?

 

You expected me to be schooled by an article you didnt read

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