Hitman: Absolution trailer is indicative of gaming's broken culture

Trit_warhol
Monday, June 04, 2012
EDITOR'S NOTEfrom Jason Lomberg

Tristan does a great job summarizing the Hitman: Absolution controversy and its implications for gaming culture. Have games journalists failed to hold IO Interactive accountable for this marketing campaign? What do you think?

Image from Hitman: Absolution trailer

Trigger warning: rape, violence against women.

If you have eyes, ears, and an internet connection, I've no doubt that you've seen the controversial trailer for Hitman: Absolution. There's also a solid chance you've read something of the video game rape culture that this two-and-a-half minutes of facepalm fuel has brought to the forefront.

To be clear, I am under no illusions: A video game rape culture exists, and I continue to see it first hand. Violence against women is normalized, sexualized in some cases, and there's evidence to suggest that women are subject to "a continuum of threatened violence" in the medium (quoted in McEwan, 2009).

Further to that, despite all of the articulate voices that have acknowledged or otherwise engaged with this topic, I'm confident that my fellow straight males can rest safe in the knowledge that our dominance of discourse regarding video games will remain unthreatened.

 

The many arms of privilege

What makes me so sure? Firstly, there's this piece by Tom Chick defending the tentacle rape card game, Tentacle Bento. If you haven't heard of the game, feel free to watch this promotional video that still makes me feel ill.

Mr Chick's arguments can be summed up as follows:

  1. The concept of tentacle rape is pure fantasy and can therefore not possibly be harmful to anyone or be linked to "the terrible criminal violation of women."
  2. Tentacle rape doesn't stir his loins in any way, so therefore, the fantasy concept would only appeal to a select few people. 
  3. Having a  readily-available, visual representation of something vile doesn't mean that society condones it.
  4. If Tentacle Bento trivializes rape, then other video games trivialize other horrible happenings such as murder, war, and road rage. Action to ban Tentacle Bento would in turn lead us down the slippery slope of censoring any games that allow socially-unacceptable behavior.

Mr. Chick fails to acknowledge his privileged status, and I think that cheapens his argument as a result. As a straight male, there is little here that would cause great offense: All of the game's sexual violence is perpetrated against women characters, and there is nothing to challenge his sexuality or make him overly uncomfortable.

Tentacle Bento is designed solely for the male gaze; you can even have your wife or girlfriend feature in the game if you pledge enough money toward the game's development. If you're a straight male and not troubled by the game's fantasy concept, there's little chance that you'd give the matter a second thought, and I'm sure that Mr. Chick's words have given solace to those involved in getting Tentacle Bento off the ground.

Mr Chick's article is a response to efforts by Insert Credit's Brandon Sheffield and Kotaku's Luke Plunkett to have the game banned from crowd-sourcing website, Kickstarter. At the very least, I'll agree that Plunkett's effort is little more than a tip of a cap, but Sheffield hit the nail on the head with the following:

Tentacle Bento’s Kickstarter success is the product of a society that doesn’t take sexual assault against women seriously enough. It shows that enough people think it’s "not a big deal." The argument comparing a game about rape to games about violence is limited by the fact that murder is almost universally penalized in our culture, meaning there is a clear line between fantasy and reality there. With rape and molestation, that line is not so clearly drawn, and it results in "cute" games like Tentacle Bento.

Even in games like Saints Row -- that Chick uses as an example in his retort -- murder may be trivialized, but there are repercussions for the act (no matter how inconsequential or how easy they may be to avoid). Going on my limited knowledge of Tentacle Bento, it seems that there are mechanisms to stop players from molesting women, yet there's no consequence for the act...save for the possibility that you may not have abducted as many young women as your competitors.

Now let us have a moment of silence for the poor bastard that couldn't rape as many women as the man sitting next to him. The shame that poor bugger must have felt...it must've been unbearable.

However, even with the Kickstarter campaign thwarted, Chick is still able to proudly assert that the naysayers lost the war: Soda Pop Miniatures was able to manage fundraising from their own website, and the game will see release. There've been no cries of condemnation after the fact...just misguided declarations that art (made by people in Chick's position of privilege) has won out over censorship.

The shame of survival

If you missed Patricia Hernandez's deeply moving article regarding her experience with rape culture in the context of Gears of War multiplayer, can I please strongly suggest you stop what you're doing and read it now?

In my position of privilege, I  previously saw the actions described by the author as nothing more than puerile, frat-boy humor. Yes, it was frustrating to be subjected to mock humping and teabagging in a few rounds of Execution, but what did I care? It was just some guys letting off some steam. Worst-case scenario, I could quit and cop a small penalty. I've never experienced anything on par with the personal anguish that Hernandez disclosed in such visceral detail, so it's pretty easy for me to dismiss such hijinks.

For someone who's survived such violation, this behavior becomes something much more powerful and potentially traumatic. Not only can I vouch for the observation that using a woman character's skin paints a target on your forehead, but worse still, her account made me identify the language that I use when describing defeat in competitive environments:

"Those dudes raped me!"

"I got my ass handed to me."

"They had their way with me!"

Such sexualized language is normalized in the context of competitive online gaming. For my part, I'm going to make a conscious effort to cut out this type of banter and instead point out the obvious: My opponents won because of skill, strategy, or luck. Possibly a combination of all three, depending on the situation and how highly I think of myself at the time.

Hitmen don't speak

So, that trailer I've assumed that you've seen: What of it, straight-male privilege and video game rape culture?

Rather than regurgitate or otherwise repurpose the observations and opinion of Brendan Keogh (via his blog, Critical Damage), Kotaku Australia's Mark Serrels, and CVG's Sarah Ditum, I thought I'd explore that of other outlets. What I saw constituted an unwillingness to engage with this troubling topic at best and a straight-up denial at worst.

  • The Verge: The trailer is given lip service via a brief blurb
  • Kill Screen: Michael Thomsen wrote a counter argument to Keogh's post that can be summed up by the following quote: "It is possible to depict an act in art without endorsing it." That sounds a little familiar, doesn't it? 
  • Penny Arcade: Unsurprisingly, the team behind the infamous web comic are very dismissive in their assessment of the trailer for IO Interactive's latest effort. Let's not forget that Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins have been embroiled in video game rape-culture controversy with the Dickwolves scandal last year. I won't describe their coverage much further, as there's someone (specifically, Foz Meadows) who's already done so in a fashion far more eloquent than I could hope to emulate. Long story short, Krahulik takes a similar approach to that which Tom Chick did with Tentacle Bento, dismissing the trailer as pure fantasy that is sexually unappealing to him, thus undoing any arguments regarding hyper-sexualization and rape culture.
  • Penny Arcade Report: Senior Editor, Ben Kuchera, hasn't yet published anything about the trailer to the website, but he has spoken of it via Twitter. Kuchera asserts that most video game blogs run content that is offensive to women, so he "can't work up any outrage" or otherwise engage with the trailer. He did, however, include Kill Screen's counter-argument to Keogh's piece in "The Cut": a page within the Penny Arcade Report site that aims to filter out the best games writing on the web.
  • Gamespot, 1UP, and Giant Bomb: Readers are asked to verify their age to view the trailer; otherwise, nothing to report. 
  • IGN: Apart from this opinion piece from Keza MacDonald (which was ridiculously hard to find using the site's search engine), I found the painfully funny juxtaposition of the website's most popular videos -- this changes often, but it averages two game trailers and as many as five separate videos of revealing cosplay and lingerie shoots -- with a quote: "The latest Hitman: Absolution trailer pairs gratuitous violence with sexualised imagery to create the most troubling piece of marketing material I think I’ve ever seen."
  • Destructoid: I was sincerely hoping that Jim Sterling would unleash his wrath on the trailer, but instead he turns to the site's readership for their reaction.   

Despite cries of protest, it's pretty clear that hyper-sexualized action, violence against women, and games writing will continue to co-exist in the short term at the very least. The majority of outlets have either refused to engage with the trailer or the rape culture that it represents.

How do you want me to think? 

I can't force you to assume my point of view, but I think the lack of formal engagement with the trailer for Hitman: Absolution represents a failure by the majority of games journalists to hold IO Interactive to account for a marketing campaign that is in poor taste. Forget the "Are games art?" debate and the potential impact such rubbish has on the medium's reputation, and forget that the action depicted in the trailer isn't practical using the awkward stealth mechanics I associate with the series. This advertisement is just plain offensive. I don't think it should be banned, but games and gamers deserve better than this. 

What did you think of the trailer for Hitman: Absolution? Is the reaction (or lack thereof) justified?

 
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Comments (78)
Default_picture
June 03, 2012

Why are horror movies so popular? Why do hot, sexy teens constitute the majority of the killer's bodycount? Why do most protagonists sport "Hollywood" good looks? Why do movies put children in danger to underline the depravity of the antagonist? Long ago, creative people discovered that film audiences prefer to spend 2+ hours gazing upon attractive people...and by extension, we consider it a deeper tragedy to see that which we perceive as innocent (a child) or the embodiment of physical beauty (a good-looking man or woman) killed or placed in jeopardy. That's all this is.

Imagine the same trailer but with the sexy nuns replaced with modestly dressed, pudgy soccer moms. Our reaction would be very different. I don't think it's an issue of associating sex with violence. It's merely a cheap trick to marshal the viewer's sympathies. And make no mistake -- it is a cheap trick. But films have been doing this since the heyday of Lillian Gish. This is nothing new and certainly nothing to get excited about. It's also a far cry from the blatant sexualized imagery found in fan-service dreck like DOA: Xtreme Beach Volleyball or Rumble Roses.

Default_picture
June 03, 2012

To be honest, I've seen this type of thing in a wide variety of anime shows. Yes, it is hyper-sexualized. I don't think that was the intent of the trailer though. It really was supposed to give people that bitter taste in their mouth of a hardcore action game that looks attractive.

I just think that the blatant visual image is really what boils people's blood over. I'm sure that many bibliophiles would consider this offensive, but I don't think it's anything worse than the bizarre stuff I saw in Shadows of the Damned.

I just prefer to play more intelligent games. That's all.

-__-

Robsavillo
June 04, 2012

Jason: Yes, the whole undressing of chaste women to reveal a hidden hypersexuality is part of it, but just making the women unattractive doesn't do anything to address the core issues. The sequence is cut in a way that sexualizes death. Look again at camera angles and perspective, like the shot where one woman uses her legs to grapple Agent 47 to the ground, or where the camera looks up at another woman standing overtop Agent 47, or where another angle shows a woman firing her weapon from between her opened legs. Not to mention how fetishized the act of Agent 47 pulling out his guns is.

Default_picture
June 04, 2012

Of course she uses her legs to grapple him to the ground:  that's how you grapple.  There isn't anything sexual about beating the crap out of somebody, unless we want to start saying that now UFC and other MMA fights are sexual in nature because buff, attractive, sweaty men are using their bodies to force the other to submit.

I honestly don't see what's so sexual about this trailer.  Nuns never did anything for me, and I don't think women with guns are any more sexy than women without guns.  In fact, I think they are less so, because guns are violent things and therefore fundamentally unsexy.

Trit_warhol
June 05, 2012

Nathan, the example you've used features man-on-man violence, and both participants would be in a similar state of undress. As for attractiveness, you're making an assumption that most UFC contestants (muscly, sweaty and aggressive men) are considered attractive by women. We might find the concept of having the body of the average to be an attractive proposition, but that's because it's a male power fantasy and most likely a "false equivalence." 

This comic says it way better than I could ever hope to: http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-13/05-the-death-of-snkrs/falseequivalence/

Default_picture
June 05, 2012

"As for attractiveness, you're making an assumption that most UFC contestants (muscly, sweaty and aggressive men) are considered attractive by women."

Fair enough.  But in that case you are also making the assumption that leather-clad fake nuns with guns are considered attractive by men.  I'm telling you that not all men consider this attractive.  Guns in particular are decidedly un-sexy as far as I'm concerned.

A man killing women is not necessarily sexual.  There is no sexual violence in the video.  As for that comic you linked to, it is funny, but not entirely accurate, because there are some women who find Batman attractive just as he is.

It's similar to the way that there are women who find nothing wrong with this trailer.  Not ALL people will find the same things attractive or unattractive, and not everyone will find this disturbing, because not everyone will see it as sexual.

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June 07, 2012

Nathan, your personal tastes aren't really the issue here.  Whether or not the nuns are attractive to every man, their outfits are clearly intended to be sexually titillating.  They're certainly not practical in any way.

I'm not entirely sure I buy the argument that the assassins' sexualized outfits are connected to the violence they dispense or suffer in a way that connotes rape, but that gratuitous sexualization is painfully self-evident.  If you don't recognize it, then I think that just goes to prove this article's point of how much this is the "default state" of gaming culture today.

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June 08, 2012

I'm not denying that their outfits are intended to be sexy.  What I am saying is that it doesn't matter.  There are plenty of men in video games who are sexy too, and no one seemsto get upset when they get brutalized.

We can't pick and choose what type of violence is okay to be used in entertainment.  To suggest that violence against women is less okay than violence against men is outrageous.  It's all violence.  If Agent 47 had raped the women first, then this would be a valid point.  But he didn't.  Of course their outfits were ridiculous, but there was absolutely no sexual violence.  They showed up with guns and tried to kill him.  He killed them instead.

One article Tristan has linked to describes how the trailer shows Agent 47 "putting the women in their" place.  That is reading into something that isn't there.  Nowhere in the trailer is that implied.  He is killing them before they kill him.  That's it.  Yes, their choice of dress is absurd.  But it doesn't make the violence against them any worse, because violence is always bad.

Trit_warhol
June 03, 2012

There's no arguing that this culture is present in other mediums, and that's not my argument here. These ladies "showed up to get knocked down" and they did so in as little clothing as possible.

 I saw the following Tweeted: "dude gets dressed for fight, girls get undressed and sexy. Then violence." How are the skin-tight outfits conducive to the murder nuns assassin occupation? What's with all with all of the close-up shots on their attractive features before, during and after the violence?

My goal with this piece was to create a reading list on the topic, so that people can see all three sides of the argument: denial, indifference and protest. I threw in my own value judgements, to contribute to the discussion. The best I'd managed previously were some joke tweets about how the trailer misrepresents the series' brand of awkward action.

Default_picture
June 03, 2012

I really wish that my experience in Hitman actually lived up to the pizazz of this trailer. Unfortunately, the actual game feels more like the clunky Splinter Cell games. Sigh.

Trit_warhol
June 03, 2012

In the interest of maintaining the reading list, I'd ask that you all check this piece which is (refreshingly) free of vitriol and spells out my issues with the Hitman trailer exquisitely: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-05-31-cant-we-discuss-this-like-adults

Waahhninja
June 04, 2012

Yes, this.

Robsavillo
June 04, 2012

Thanks for writing this. I think you've summed up well the issues here as well as completely deconstructed the counter-arguments. Hernandez's piece should be required reading, so thanks for linking to that, too.

Trit_warhol
June 05, 2012

No worries, Rob. Thanks for the feedback and agreed that Hernandez's piece is nothing short of essential reading.

Default_picture
June 04, 2012

To be honest, I think what bothers me most about this trailer is how the marketing team behind it is most likely proud of themeselves for creating such a heated debat online. In the end I guess sex and violence always sells. 

Default_picture
June 04, 2012

Some disclosure: I seriously considered donating to that tentacle rape game's campaign, and I don't even like anime or any of that stuff. I would've done it just to get it passed, because I can't stand the "I don't like it, so let's get rid of it" attitude people had about the game.

So now that my bias it out there, I sincerely believe that if Agent 47 was blasting a bunch of dudes then this trailer wouldn't spark controversy.

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June 07, 2012

Uhh... yeah, lol.  Being that the controversy is entirely based on the fact that these are a bunch of women in porn costumes getting their asses kicked/killed by a man in a suit, I'd say you're right about that.  The violence isn't the issue -- the victims are the issue (specifically their sex and sexualization).  That's stated pretty explicity throughout the article.

Default_picture
June 04, 2012
I created an account just to comment on this article. This is rubish. I have read Hernandez's article and is moving and true but I really don't see the connection. I bet you that if this was a hot chick kicking a bunch of guy's asses, it wouldn't be a problem. What do you want? The protagonist to die in the trailer? What about Bayonetta? I mean rape culture is alive in multiplayer game but how is this trailer going along with it? They are not even in bikinis... Why are we not talking about Lolipop w/e... Look, even my friends that are girls would not play a game where chicks were not hot. THEY don't want to be portrayed as normal but as having the whole package. Don't believe me... go and ask to the girls that ACTUALLY PLAY.
Trit_warhol
June 05, 2012

How is the Hitman: Absolution trailer complicit in perpetuating rape culture? This quote from Brendan Keogh will clear things up for you, I'm sure:

"So the Hitman Absolution trailer. Do I have a problem with the existence of female assassins? No. Do I have a problem with female assassins dressing up as nuns? No. Do I have a problem with Agent 47 killing females dressed up as nuns in self-defence? No. What I have a problem with, what you should have a problem with, is that these aren’t just ‘women assassins dressed as nuns’. These are women designed and dressed by the trailer’s producer (probably a male) to look (a male version of) sexy while another male (Agent 47) bashes the shit out of them all while other males (the imagined gamer at home) watches on. It is pretty telling that the opening of the trailer is the manly man getting dressed for the encounter while the sexualised women get undressed for it. You, the viewer that the trailer’s creator assumes is male, are meant to think these women are sexy, that their naughty-nun costumes and their giant bosoms and stripper heels are sexually appealing while Agent 47 exerts his male dominance over them, while he puts them in their place. Oh? You think you are powerful assassins? No. You are foolish little girls. Here, see how a real man assassin puts you in your place. No, he doesn’t ‘literally’ rape them, but a male forced these (fictional) women to act in a way males would find them sexy while another male did violence to them. That is teaching women their place. That is fucked up. That is rape culture."

Default_picture
June 07, 2012

You missed a point or two there, but for what it's worth, the gamer girls I know enjoy characters like Ellie from Dead Space 2 and Lightning from FF13.  They don't enjoy the "characters" from DOA Volleyball, and they certainly don't enjoy a bunch of slutty-looking nuns who, despite having a huge numerical advantage, get killed by a man in about one minute flat.

Being pretty is one thing -- everyone wants to see pretty people in their games and movies and TV shows -- but being dressed up like a pornstar is something else.  Especially when it serves no contextual purpose whatsoever, and only serves to turn the would-be badass assassin women whose asses are being kicked into sex objects whose asses are being kicked.

Default_picture
June 09, 2012

Do I think this is offensive? Yes. Do I think there are a lot of things that are offensive? Yes. BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A LINE. Whenever it doesn't suit a group, they start complaining. They are not dressed like porn stars. I have seen 15 yr olds with worst attires than the ones shown there. 

We might as well ban anything and everything and give in to what the other gender wants. It's ridiculous how far political correctness, double standards and hypocrisy has taken us. You want full out sexism... check this out: a tv show talking about how funny is that a man cut his wife's clitoris and then threw it in the trash can. No one got upset, nothing happened. Even the apology was a joke. BUT WAIT THAT COULD NOT HAD HAPPENED WITH MEN TALKING ABOUT WOMEN BUT IT DID HAPPEN IN "THE TALK" BUT IT"S FINE BECAUSE THEY ARE WOMEN. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKgwczruOSQ

If it was a woman kicking a bunch of sexy looking guys... it would be fine. Not coming to this website to support a bunch of manginas. Justice and rights for all!

Default_picture
June 05, 2012

Isn't all this really just a slight variant of the debate about whether violent videogames leads to violent behavior or that pornography leads to more rape? I thought we were past that, mainly because there has been no basis for such a connection.

I know noone is litteraly claiming that trailers like Hitman or sexists videogames in general leads to abuse of women, but to me it seems people are using the same kind of argument where they mix fiction with reality.

The premise seems to be to that there should be a general mentality in soceity that says that it is basically womens own fault if they get raped. While the view surely exists in some twisted minds, I will not in any way call it accepted or mainstream. And it makes no sense to let fictional videogames, or any other fiction for that matter, take any responsibility for this.

Overall I agree with the critiqs saying that the Hitman-trailer is sexists and that many videogames draws on the same stereotype of brutal macho men and sexy submissive women, but I don't see the real problem. It is within a fictional world where you can and should be allowed to have fun with things that you might oppose or be disgusted of in real life.

While most gamers agree that you do not have a twisted mentality if you like violent videogames in general, so why should it be any different if you like a sexists depiction of women in the same fictional world? Deal with the people who have sexists views in the real world, there is no reason to mix it.

I have written a bit more on this here http://idkfa.sysctl.dk/2012/06/04/there-is-nothing-wrong-with-the-videogame-rape-culture/

Trit_warhol
June 05, 2012

No, in no way did I argue that games like Tentacle Bento or trailers like that for Hitman: Absolution lead to violence and/or rape. You've stated as much in your second paragraph.

Not once did I argue that it's a woman's fault if they get raped: this is a straw man argument.

I read your post, and as for your argument that rape and rape culture isn't an accepted norm, I refer you to another quote from Brendan Sheffield (in reference to Tentacle Bento):

"For one thing, rape is not cute. Amnesty International states that 1 in 3 women is molested, sexually assaulted, or otherwise beaten in her lifetime. I’ve heard many advocates say this number is low, due to under-reporting. And it’s not cute, and should never be depicted with such saccharine sweetness as Tentacle Bento does. It is terribly damaging to anyone it happens to."

1 in 3. 33% (possibly more as this is thought to be under reported) of women will have experienced molestation, sexual violence or be otherwise beaten in their lifetimes. That is an alarming statistic, and proof that such occurences are the norm.

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June 05, 2012

I did not refer to you in particular, but was more commenting in general on what I have seen posted about this topic.

Of course it is an alarming statitics, but it is not the norm unless the majority of males thinks it is okay. That is not the case. And again, then we should tackle real world problems with abuse of women, not mixing fictional worlds into it.

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June 05, 2012

Every once in a while, I'll check out this site because the articles are relevant and the community actually seems to be respectful (from what I've seen).  I also created an account to comment on this article, and I think the links that you provided were powerful:  One for showing the ignorance that can be pushed forward in the name of "creativity," and the other for providing insight as to how insensitive the gaming community can be.  I have met an alarming number of women that have been raped or abused in some manner by men.  As such, I also think that a game like Tentacle Bento trivializes these issues by making them into objectives for completing a game.  Concerning the Hitman:  Absolution trailer, it just seems to me that it was made in bad taste.  I can attest that although I don't think the trailer will have any role in the events of the game itself, it certainly didn't cause me to gain any interest in trying it out.   

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June 05, 2012
It's always been tougher for people to see women and children get hurt. This trailer wasn't near as bad as most action or suspense movies I've seen. People need to get over it. I will be buying this game just like I bought the last three Hitman games.
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June 05, 2012

I think perhaps the worst thing about a trailer like this is the reaction (or lack thereof) it invokes in me. My response to this was pretty much apathy. I can understand why people are upset, hell, there are valid reasons for people to be upset about this, but my reaction has pretty much been "yeah, it's tasteless, but it's not the first tasteless thing I've ever seen to promote a game, nor will it be the last."

I think it was The Escapist forums, or on a comment thread, where I saw a person complaining that this was getting attention, when a trailer of Agent 47 murdering policemen in cold blood was getting nary the bat of an eyelash. As a serviceman the brutality shown against fellow keepers of the peace really bothered him, and yet there was and nor will there be outrage in all likelyhood.

I can't help but wonder if it's merely a disconnect between what I know is fantasy and what I perceive is reality, or whether years of wading through increasing violence and graphic situations has simply desensitized me to such concerns. Certainly I would never condone even a tiny percent of the actions in some of the games I have played, but is merely not condoning enough, or do I need to be disturbed by the inherent brutality and sexism portrayed in so many modern gaming experiences?

Perhaps it's time to gather my thoughts....

Robsavillo
June 05, 2012

All of the dismissive comments here are already addressed in the article either by Tristan himself or in one of the many sources he links. Really, people, it's as if you haven't even read the whole piece.

If you don't think that video game culture tolerates an environment that's openly hostile to women, I don't think that you're paying close enough attention. Last night as I wanted someone's livestream of Sony's E3 presser through Twitch.TV (because I was watching through my phone since the family was using the TV), I witnessed a terrible display of misogyny.

The host of this particular channel (I think it was nerdgasm or something) berated a woman demonstrating a game: "Get off the stage, bitch!" Simply because he wasn't interested in the title. When Ubisoft announced that Assassin's Creed: Liberation's protagonist would be a woman, the publisher/developer was henceforth labeled "Boobisoft" by participants in the accompanying chatroom. And I saw more than one "Tits or GTFO," subsequently.

I can't imagine that a woman starting up that stream would feel comfortable with all of that flying around during the presentation. This channel was one of the top results when I searched for "E3 Sony" in the app.

The Hitman trailer exists within this context, and I think it's important not to lose perspective here.

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June 05, 2012

I think the community is openly hostile to everyone, we just notice it more when it happens to woman. Have you never been called a "fag" or were told you were raped by some stranger online? I do agree that it's completely juvenile, but this kind of thing happens to everyone.

As for the Hitman trailer, it's pretty stupid, but I think they just wanted to make it look cool. Slo-mo weapon draws are nothing new, and all those shots would've appeared stylish whether there was a dude or a woman getting lit up. Too bad it just came off as tasteless.

Robsavillo
June 05, 2012

And both of those things you just mentioned are explained, in detail in the provided links in Tristan's article, as a part of rape culture, which shapes this hostility toward women.

Default_picture
June 05, 2012

I'm pretty well aware of the community's hostile attitude toward women. I think the real reason why this trailer didn't raise my eyebrows is because I've seen this type of thing before.

I honestly hate to feel indifferent, but game companies are clearly trying to reach a certain audience with these trailers. It's more like we're seeing their intentions with these games, rather than the final product itself. And the companies always change the games in the end, so it's as if I can't trust any game trailer anymore.

Speaking of which, the gameplay footage of The Last of Us really blew my mind with a much different atmosphere than I expected. The big question is what the developer is planning with the story.

Lolface
June 05, 2012

I read this article before I saw the Hitman: Absolution trailer (not a fan of the franchise), and I agree about the rape culture that gaming cultivates. The word is used far too often and out of context by people who either don't understand what it means, or are too douchey to care, and women are treated pretty crappily within the gaming community.

When I finally watched the Hitman trailer, I thought that it was a pretty good action scene.Yes, the Agent 47 got dressed while the sexy nuns with guns got undressed, but there seems to be a reason for it.

The women appeared as nuns as a tie-in to the game's subtitle, Absolution, which is a theological term heavily associated with the Roman Catholic Church, hence, nuns. The women are then shown to be wearing "stripper heels" and they have gang tattoos to show that, spoiler alert, they aren't nuns. And when they take off their clothes to reveal their sexy leather dresses, we as the audience see that they are in fact gangsters, not nuns. Also, it's important to note that these women are gangsters, not assassins.

Was the trailer tasteful? No, not really. While I haven't seen too many modestly dressed female gangsters in any medium (I can think of a grand total of one), I feel that the juxtuposion of the women undressing against Agent 47 getting dressed (not to mention the fetish leather suits) works to perpetuate the perception that these women are being degraded or objectified. The problem is that they were objectified before they showed up on screen.

The gangster nuns are nothing more than cannon fodder. They exist to be destroyed, and there is nothing wrong with that. Agent 47 beats and kills them, and I don't see anything wrong with that. While some may argue that the trailer fetishizes the killing of women, I have to ask, how so? Because the gangster nuns wore fetishized outfits and died, thus fetishizing death? Or was it because (presumably) a man created these seven women to be annihilated by a man for other men to enjoy? That doesn't seem right to me.

Are we so sensitve that women can't be bad guys? I agree that real women are treated worse than crap by the gaming community, but does that mean that we have to disqualify fictional women from being bad guys and cannon fodder on the basis that they are women?

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June 06, 2012

First, thank you to everyone involved in this discussion for keeping it on track, civil, and open.

before I get to the video, I'll point out that some of the language posters have used is somewhat misleading. Saying "the community's hostile attitude toward women" is incorrect. Individuals have attitudes, not communities. I think you mean that hostile attitudes toward women are common in the gaming community. The same for "the community is openly hostile to everyone."  My intent is not to be pedantic - I think understanding (and clearly expressing) the difference between the ideas "all X are Y" and "some X are Y" is important. Just because some gamers are misogynistic jerks doesn't mean all gamers are, and it doesn't mean that playing games will make someone more misogynistic.

As for the video, I think its depiction of the female characters certainly plays on established tropes that are not beneficial to women - the functionality of their costumes clearly comes second to their appearance (granted, a nun's habit provides lots of room to hide guns, but vinyl pants aren't exactly conducive to kung-fu). The video is low-culture, appeals to our base guns-boobs-violence appettites, and doesn't add anything original to the mix, but I don't think it's rape fantasy, or perpetuates violence against women, for a few reasons. The women are dressed in sexy outfits, but they aren't displayed as objects; they have agency. They are out to get the hitman, they find him, and they attack him. They never give up. Although the women lose the fight, the hitman is never hurting someone who has surrendered, or is fully in his power. Rape is about the forceful procurement of submission, and these women never submit.

My take is that I don't think this video is guilty of much. It's not helping to fight inequality and abusive behavior in the gaming community, but I don't think it's fueling them, either. Its depiction of women isn't any worse (or any better) than things we see on billboards every day,  and the violence, while containing women, isn't directed at them with submission as its goal. I think the video is about power, not sex, and about contesting, not dominating.

Trit_warhol
June 06, 2012

I think the assertion that the attitudes expressed in the comments section in this article and in those that I've linked to is that of individuals as opposed to a community is a cop-out. While it has -- for the most part -- remained civil here, check the comments section in the articles that I've linked to, or scarier still, check the comments in this same article posted on GamesBeat. What you'll see is the writhing and gnashing of teeth of men defending "territory" that they believe to be theirs' because they were there first.  

For your assertion that the trailer is not sexist, I strongly suggest that you read Mark Serrels' piece for Kotaku Australia: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/05/hitman-absolution-the-army-of-girls-that-will-change-gaming/  

To quote: "No doubt you’ve seen it already – sexuality by numbers – chaste nuns, casting aside robes to reveal themselves in the most tacky way possible. Dressed in leather and stilettos, having their faces smashed in and shot by Agent 47 — a strapping bald male — grimacing as he chokes, punches and blasts his way through this sexualised horde of females."

No-one said all gamers are misogynistic jerks, but those in the community that are, are showing up in force in the comments sections and in the forums across the internet. I'm going to make an assumption (I know that's dangerous), but it looks to me as though all the people that commented on this piece are male. Doesn't that tell you something?

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June 06, 2012

Almost all the people that comment on every bitmob piece are male. More interestingly, most of  bitmob stories about misogyny or gender issues that I've bumped into are written by men as well.

This is just one of those issues where "we" can't convince each other to see things differently.

The only sexualised thing I see about the trailer are the stupid costumes. Agent 47 is just doing the same ole' to them. I'm not defending any territory, and I've watched many times since after the supposed sexualised scenes were pointed out. So I think I'm paying enough attention. But no matter how many different articles I read about this trailer, those shots aren't all that notable to me.

In fact, before I read your piece, I assumed the controversy was more about a bunch of faux nuns getting lit up.

Too many peopel whip out the "feminazi" war cries, but it's also frustrating when I'm told I'm not looking deep enough, or haven't read enough editorials(assuming I'd agree with them), because I don't interpret a trailer a certain way.

Trit_warhol
June 07, 2012

I'm not asking anyone to look deep or deeper, just to acknowledge the inherent sexism of games like Tentacle Bento and trailers like that for Hitman: Absolution and Far Cry 3 (which you highlighted for me, so thanks :-) ).

Truth is (at least as far as I see it), most articles and comments in the field of games writing/journalism are written by men because the scene is unfriendly to women. If you want proof of this, have a look at Keza MacDonald's My IGN page. Granted, it's looking a lot better now (as MacDonald has deleted several insulting comments), but there's still a lot of vitriol hanging around on her page because she decided to speak up.

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June 07, 2012

Acknowdledge, sure. Still, that does not make it a problem, like with every other things that happen in videogames that we oppose in the real world. And that is my main gripe with this debate. It does not have to be a problem with games themselves.

And I don't think it is fair to use anonymous comments by trolls on the Internet as stating some general fact about the gaming community in general. It is always the loudest and badmouthed people that gets the most attention.

I guess everyone experiences different things, but the girls I know who play videogames, have never said that there is any hostility towards them for being female. If anything, they are annoyed that other gamers might treat them more "gently" because they are.

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June 07, 2012

Looking back on the old Tomb Raider trailer in 2011, I actually reconsidered my own opinion. I can now see how a freaking fall onto the spike was a cheap shot for sexual agony. It was a very phallic spike. And it sure stirred the guys up.

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Whatever. I can now see developers repeating the same stupid trick for the next E3. Ugh. It's like that movie Groundhog Day.

Trit_warhol
June 07, 2012

Jeppe, it's not a problem for you as you are speaking (read: writing) from a position of privilege.

Also, it's fair to refer to a "community" as the "trolls" that you refer to are rarely held to account for their behaviour. Worse still, those that attempt to acknowledge sexism, rape culture and other undesirable aspects of rape culture are often victmised themselves. If Keza MacDonald's My IGN page isn't enough for you, read the comments on Patricia Hernandez's piece on Kotaku (I've linked to the Australian page in my piece, but the comments on the US version are worse).

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June 07, 2012

What has "privilege" got do to with anything? Arguments should be considered and counterargued for what they say, not based on who they are coming from. 

I still do not see what random comments has to do with anything that goes on in actual game or trailer, or why these should be linked. If people are showing that they have sexists views on women or are hateful towards female gamers, then they have a problem and the criticism should go towards them. Not whatever goes on in a fictional gameworld.

Trit_warhol
June 07, 2012

I did consider your argument for what it was and provided evidence to the contrary. Further to that, the concept of privilege is central to my piece. Here's two articles on the subject I suggest that you read on topic of nerdy pursuits and male privilege:

The first: http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2011/11/nerds-and-male-privilege/all/1/

...and the author's response to common arguments against it: http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2012/01/nerds-and-male-privilege-part-2/all/1/ (pay special attention to the last one, as it's most relevant to our argument).

Priveleged straight males dominate videogame discourse and the unwillingness of most outlets to engage with the issue of sexism and rape culture after the emergence of Tentacle Bento and the Hitman: Absolution trailer ensures that the status quo is not going to be threatened any time soon.

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June 07, 2012

All fair arguments and as I have said before and written in my blogpost, I am not as such disagreeing with most of the analysis, because it is clearly true that most females in videogames are depicted as sexy and the auidience for these games is mostly males. But why is that a problem? It is just the market. I will not oppose if a game will try to do these things differently, if there was a market for it. I will just still be allowed to like things in a fictional setting, without it needs to in anyway connected with my opinions on violence, women or any other topic, which someone is trying to with saying that sexism in videogames in a fictional world, should have anything to do with real world problems or shows a certain mentality in our soceity. Seperate the things please.

I am just trying to figure out what all the fuss about, because I am genuinely surprised by it all. Is it simply a matter of wanting a greater variaty in the selection of games when it comes to how women are depicted in games? No argument against that from me. Is the real problem that some people still have a hateful and sexists view on women in general? Again, most sane people will not oppose trying to stop that.. Just don't mix things.

Robsavillo
June 07, 2012

“Almost all the people that comment on every bitmob piece are male. More interestingly, most of  bitmob stories about misogyny or gender issues that I've bumped into are written by men as well.”

Danny, I’m willing to bet that this is the result of women not feeling welcome in gaming communities. It’s not just that men comment on and write about these issues more often than women -- just take a casual look at the mobfeed. Do you see any women writing about anything at all? Commenting at all? That’s not to say that no women are games journalists or interested in games writing, but it is to say that they are a minority.

And this is in spite of the fact that women make up a majority of people interested in playing video games according to ESA stats.

“the girls I know who play videogames, have never said that there is any hostility towards them for being female. “

Jeppe, that’s great for your friends. But these women will disagree, and they’ve collected a huge archive of evidence: http://fatuglyorslutty.com/

Tristan, "privilege" is a loaded term, unfortunately, as you’ve just seen with Jeppe’s responses. I urge you (and Jeppe) to read Jon Scalzi’s article about thinking of male privilege in video game terms. It’s really quite clever: http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white-male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-there-is/

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June 07, 2012

Disturbing page, but really nothing new - the Internet seems to be like that in general, with perverts being perverts and idiots being idiots. My wife has also gotten sexual inquireres while playing Wordfeud, but that has really not much to do with the game or the gaming community in general. That is "just" idiots on the Internet, and that is why I still dont get why gaming publishers and games like Hitman and that Tentacle has to be in any way associated with that kind of online behaviour.

And yes, the Scalzi article is great :)

Robsavillo
June 07, 2012

Jeppe, I really think that you're underplaying just how pervasive these attutides are. It's not just a few "perverts and idiots" here or there. It's seemingly everywhere you look. And it's especially telling when major gaming companies in the industry play to these attitudes with regularity.

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June 07, 2012

How many of them there are out there is really not the point. It is still those who have a problem with their rude behaviour online. The games themselves has nothing to do with that. Just as little as violent videogames has to with whatever violence goes on the real world.

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June 07, 2012

Rob, have to nitpick your assertion that women make up a majority of people interested in playing video games. I have no doubt this is true, but I'm sure that the ESA defines "video games" very broadly.

Robsavillo
June 07, 2012

As do we as game journalists...and as does the industry at large. What's your point?

I will concede that my memory was a bit hazy. 47% of the game-playing popuation is female. But the important statistic here (which is what I was getting at) is this:

"Women 18 or older represent a significantly greater portion of the game-playing population (30%) than boys age 17 or younger (18%)"

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2012.pdf

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June 07, 2012

My point is that if, as I suspect, females are, by and large, more interested in social and casual titles than they are action games, then they wouldn't be the target audience for something like Hitman: Absolution. Is it an untapped market? Perhaps. Would making the industry more accessible in general to females endear women to games like Hitman? Maybe. But just asserting that the majority of gamers are female misses the point (not to mention the fact that it's not entirely true).

I'm not sure what you're getting at with that quote, which seemed to be a throwaway remark on the part of the ESA. Old(er) women play games more so than young boys...again, "game-playing population" is a very blanket statement that encompasses a wide variety of genres.

I'd say the more telling quote is the following:

"Of the most frequent game purchasers, 52% are male and 48% are female."

And even that isn't very informative because it lacks clarification on the types of games, which gender spent more (which could give a clue as to who plays more casual titles), and other pertinent information.

Robsavillo
June 07, 2012

You wouldn't think that with women making up nearly half of the gaming population that we'd see so few women writing about games and participating in the larger conversation. It has nothing to do with this specific game or any specific "target audience" or any specific genre (though, you could certainly argue that male-dominated conversations about male-dominated games selected for coverage by male-dominated websites has the effect of creating a "boys club" around video games -- and that proves my overall point).

We flat out don't see that many women wanting to participate despite them playing so many games. We should be wondering why that is. Trailers like this Hitman one (and you'd be hard pressed to argue that it's not representative of what kind of games we write and talk about) certainly don't do anything to make women feel invited to the party. That's my point.

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June 07, 2012

There could be many reasons why they dont participate in online discussions, but I think comments on gaming sites is a very poor indicator of anything. Out of all the millions of people in the world that play games, it is only a small fraction that visits gaming sites and an even smaller fraction of them that actively take part in discussions.

Your point is certainly valid, but I dont see it has that much to do with gaming culture. For me it seems in general that women dont take active part in internet online internet discussions. 

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June 07, 2012

I don't know if any of you have seen this yet or not: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/07/io-apologetic-over-hitman-trailer-controversy Just figured I'd share.

Robsavillo
June 07, 2012

Thanks, Mark. This is interesting but disappointing. I feel that IO Interactive doesn't quite get it, as evidenced by the "We’re sorry that we offended people" line. They're not sorry for perpetuating (whether knowingly or not) a sexist culture around games; they're only sorry that people were offended by the trailer.

But most damning for gaming-culture-at-large is the comments section. Ugh.

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June 07, 2012

And why should they? I totally understand their response. Their intention was not to hurt, so why should the apologize? Basically, people are just saying the do not like the trailer. That is nothing the creator should be sorry for.

Robsavillo
June 07, 2012

Jeppe, as way of analogy: If someone punches you in the face and then says, "I'm sorry that your body couldn't handle the damage of my fist," would you not feel as if that's an empty, hollow apology? Wouldn't you want this person to say, "I'm sorry that I punched you in the face?"

Similarily, that's what it's like when someone says, "I'm sorry that my racist joke offended you." That person is not sorry for telling a racist joke; the person is only sorry that you were offended.

It's the same thing going on with IO Interactive's response here.

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June 07, 2012

Your analogy does not hold up. If you get punched in the face, you have no choice to avoid it and you actually do get hurt. Here people have a choice to ignore what they do not like.

And in this case, people have intepretated the trailer in a specific way. Should every author of anything feel sorry for every intepration viewers might have, regardless of the authors own intent? That would make no sense.

Trit_warhol
June 07, 2012

Jeppe, that's another cop-out. You're essentially saying that this game and games journalism is not for women and other minorities, so they can (and should) avoid it.

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June 07, 2012

The question of intent is kind of the point here, in a way.  Specifically, the unconscious or subliminal motives that brought-about a conscious intent.  Of course no one would ever make a commercial with the intent of hurting anyone's feelings -- or at least no one would admit to such an intent -- but feelings do get hurt.  And that tends to happen because A) someone had an idea for a commercial that ultimately stemmed from some probably unconscious impulse that does specifically pertain to whatever the offensive issue in question is, and B1) the maker(s) of said commercial wasn't/weren't attentive enough to notice the potential issue, or B2) they did notice the issue but cynically exploited it for additional buzz.  I imagine B2 happens more often than B1.  And A is both the cause and the result of the kind of broken culture this article mentions.

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June 07, 2012

Tristan: Where am I saying anything like that? I am not saying anyone should do anything specific. Simply that staying away from things you do not like is just the most logic thing to do. I am not making any statement about women or men in this matter. Whoever you are, you are not forced to play games you do not like.

 

Andrew: Still, it does make sense for every author or artist of anything to going around feeling sorry for every possible feelings his/her work might invoke. Unless they want to, but we as viewers cannot demand that they should. And so far, I have mostly seen game journalists writing about how bad the trailer is. No one has demanded they should apologize. And to who should they apologize and what for? They have created a fictional video with non-real characters. It might be different if they have included visualisations of real persons in the trailer without their consent, but even so, then should for example comedians also apologize to every politician they make a joke about? Sorry, I simply cannot see any great need to demand apologies for anything that is purely fictional.

Trit_warhol
June 08, 2012
Jeppe, you rejected Rob's punch analogy on the basis that the trailer/article/culture can be avoided. If a woman wants to engage with gaming culture, sexism is pretty much unavoidable; your wife's experience in Wordfreud is a perfect example.
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June 08, 2012

Why is it unavoidable? Does she have to play a game like Hitman if she does not like it? It makes as little sense as saying it is a problem that FPS games involves killing, because who want to avoid games that involves killing stuff cannot play them. Then they can play something else. That has nothing to with gender, only a matter of taste. Clearly alot of people dislike Hitman for that trailer, but why is it a problem that the game and trailer exists? Other people may like it, so whats the problem? Is it a goal in itself that everybody has to like every game?

That you encounter perverts in Wordfeud is just an example that there is perverts pretty much everywhere on the Internet. But that has nothing to do with the Wordfeud game itself or any gaming community. How is that in any way related to what kind of themes developers put into their games and trailers? You might as well blame pornography for that, which some actually do.

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June 08, 2012

Oh no, I don't think they should have to apologize either.  Apologies in these cases are always meaningless and false anyway, and most of the people who complain about such things continue to complain after an apology has been rendered.  It makes no difference whether the guilty parties apologize or not.  However, they do have to suffer PR damage from the complaints against them.  They can react to it however they damn well please, but they do have to suffer the backlash.

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June 07, 2012

I don't so much mind there being a badass all-female hit squad that 47 has to take out (in the tradition of Kill Bill and MGS4, among many other games and films, I'm sure)... but I do find it stupid, pointless, and I suppose offensive, that they're all dressed up in fetish pornstar attire.  I don't know if sexualized violence and rape are exactly the same thing, but either way, I don't like whatever it was that this trailer showed.

As for the larger questions of people's and gamers' attitudes towards rape in general, I can't really fathom it all.  I don't know if I quite have enough perspective on the issue -- my opinions are very inconsistent on these matters.  I suppose that, more often than not, I am offended or at least made uncomfortable by the things that cause these sorts of uproars.  And I've always despised people who use the word "rape" to mean "beat in a videogame."  But there are also plenty of cases wherein I dismiss what I judge to be "PC oversensitivity," though those cases tend to be about objectification more than violence.  I don't know, that whole "milieu" is very murky for me; and I kind of suspect that -- as a man who has no real reason to fear of being raped myself -- any line I might draw with regard to games' depictions of rape or violence against women is doomed to be ultimately arbitrary, and thus inexplicable and probably hypocritical in some way.

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June 09, 2012

 

Do I think this is offensive? Yes. Do I think there are a lot of things that are offensive? Yes. BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A LINE. Whenever it doesn't suit a group, they start complaining. They are not dressed like porn stars. I have seen 15 yr olds, by their choice, with worst attires than the ones shown there. 

We might as well ban anything and everything and give in to what the other gender wants. It's ridiculous how far political correctness, double standards and hypocrisy has taken us. You want full out sexism... check this out: a tv show talking about how funny is that a man cut his wife's clitoris and then threw it in the trash can. No one got upset, nothing happened. Even the apology was a joke. BUT WAIT THAT COULD NOT HAD HAPPENED WITH MEN TALKING ABOUT WOMEN BUT IT DID HAPPEN IN "THE TALK"  WHERE WOMEN LAUGHED IN PUBLIC TELEVISION FOR WHEN A WOMAN CUT A MAN'S PENIS BUT IT"S FINE BECAUSE THEY ARE WOMEN. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKgwczruOSQ

If it was a woman kicking a bunch of sexy looking guys... it would be fine. Not coming to this website to support a bunch of manginas. Justice and rights for all!

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June 09, 2012

The women in the video are clearly sexualized, and there is violence; I don't think that automatically makes "sexualized violence". I don't think this video is about a sex act, or control. It's about skill, competition, power - and one side of the conflict is female. You could replace the female characters with male characters and the narrative would be the same. You could put the female characters in other costumes and the narrative would be the same. Their tarted up costumes are not relevant to the plot.

The reaction to this video reminds me of when Jerry Falwell warned parents not to let their children watch Teletubbies because the purple one was a role model for being gay. He saw the purple color and the triangle antenna, and jumped to a conclusion based on a huge pile of his own assumptions. The women in this video are a)the aggressors b)met as equals in a competitive engagement c)not dominated. The violence perpatrated against them is in a fight, not after a fight. The symbols of abuse are there - tight clothes, unrealistic physical proportions, violence - but this isn't abuse. They pick a fight, with guns, and lose. It comes down to agency. Rapists seek to subdue and conquer their victims, to force submission. The hitman sees these women as opponents to defeat, not victims to abuse. He doesn't leer, he doesn't grope, he doesn't take pleasure in exerting control. Some people may watch that video and think "yeah, those bitches got what they deserved!" but that's an expression of their own hatred, not an accurate interpretation of the movie.

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June 10, 2012

Completely agree, Christopher.

And to the gentleman that produced this article... I find a whole lot of this to be bullshit. You spent 3 quarters of the article complaining about other games that are a bit different than the hitman trailer. Tenticle rape porn and punching a chick in the face who tried to kill you aren't exactly the same thing. Lumping violence in with anything that's sexualized and then screaming "RAPE CULTURE!" is ridiculous and it's offensive to the average day-to-day person that plays games, and doesn't act like every clown on the internet.

Even the entire term of rape culture, and the way I've seen people throwing it around since this stupid trailer came out is used in a way that implies anyone who isn't on your side of the argument is part of some vast network of people who thinks raping women is okay.

And that's fucking ridiculous.

Was the trailer in poor taste? Probably. Are a bunch of women, armed to the teeth, trying to kill someone the same as tenticle porn? No. Not even slightly the same. It isn't the same ballpark, it isn't even the same sport.

Further, I'd be willing to bet that a guy, who is a Hitman, like Agent 47, wouldn't kill people attacking him any different based on sex.

Honestly, this entire piece strikes me as somebody trying to get people to rally around a topic that isn't really a topic at all. It feels like you used this issue with Hitman to discuss your distates with a tentacle porn game, and just threw Hitman in so you could say "IT'S ALMOST THE SAME THING!" which was ridiculous. Cause it's not remotely the same. A Hitman killing a bunch of Hitwomen isn't rape culture.

This whole thing is a stretch.
 

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June 10, 2012
Agreed. I think I can think rationally. As a product of that I know there will be a time when the human race will face extinction. The only way we will be saved is by having the best of the best... be it men or women, gay or straight, white or black, muslim or christian. However that doesn't mean that I will put up with the shaming of men that has bee going around in the media. Yes there is a rape culture in online gaming but by no means this is an extension of that. LIke I said before... do you wnt the protagoinst to be killed withint the first few minutes. FURTHERMORE, I THINK THIS IS JUST ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE WRITER. MORE PUBLICITY. BUT AT WHAT PRICE.
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I saw the trailer when it originally came out, but missed most of this outrage over how it perpetuates rape culture. I think as a whole, this trailer isnt too bad. The quote from Brendan Keogh that you have posted in a comment Tristan are very true.  Agent 47 is exerting his male dominance over them - and in a way is displaying his aggression as a sort of sexual punishment. BUT I dont think its any worse than most games that show violence against women.

Sure they are dressed skimpy (though not that skimpy...), and some of the actions are more sexualized than others, I would say the scene where the woman gasps as he chokes her is playing into rape-culture especially. But aside from that the fact that they are women doesn’t seem to be factoring into the way they are killed. As another commenter said, this is pretty much par for the course for our bald assassain. I think if instead of sexy nuns, his enemies were tough thugs, that the violence or actions depicted would be quite similar.

Tristan have you played Blood Money (the most recent Hitman game)? The type of violence shown in this trailer is very similar to the sort of violence you can exert on women in that game, and the women are equally sexualized (many appearing in bikinis, and in the world of Hitman a D seems to be the smallest cup size that exists).

But the main thing I want to say is that I read Hernandez's article, and I found it the opposite of "deeply moving". In fact, I found it trivializes rape much more than this trailer does. I had to go into the comments of the article to make sure she meant that she was actually raped in real life; because of the way she seemed to brush it off. For someone who claims (not that I am trying to suggest she is lying) to be a multiple-rape survivor she seems to discuss the manner in an extremely glib way, and the fact that she couldn’t contain herself from blurting out "I raped you" multiple times in front of her friend, another rape-survivor, who was visibly bothered by her previous usage of the term, only seems to show that she is equally immature as the boys she was playing against.

I have seen the depths of 4chan and other sites, so I am quite desensitized to things, so needless to say, Ive seen much worse than this Hitman trailer. I wouldn’t say it found it repulsive, offensive (that’s personally offensive mind you, not saying that I dont think what is indicates is wrong), or even slightly shocking. But I would say that Hernandez's article did repulse me. One of my close friends was raped and it is a very damaging thing to her. Hernandez talks about it like its nothing, and by comparing it to the fake action of "raping" in Gears of War trivializes the real crime of rape.

"Raping" in Gears Of War constitutes of having someone step forward and backwards while near another who is on all fours, so it’s basically the same as projecting the cha-cha slide onto someone who isn’t in the mood for dancing. It’s stupid.   Rape in real life is a physically and emotionally scarring thing. A serious thing. 

By “raping” another character in Gears of War you are just expressing a insult against another, it hardly carries the connotation that real sexual assault does. Saying that you raped another character is just another interchangeable insult in the infinite repertoire of online gamers. Substitute it for “suck it”, “I beat you”, “faggot”, “douche”, or any other insult. That is to say, that when a player chooses to say “rape” they don’t mean to say . Rape is just higher on the list of offensive words, just as you would only yell out “damn!” when you dropped your knife on the ground, but would yell out “holy shit balls fuck!” when you drop the turkey on Thanksgiving day; you would say “you suck” when you come across a player or team you beat by just a bit, but that “you raped them” when they could hardly figure out the controls, let alone score any points against you.

Since gaming is male dominated (something she herself admits), it seems less offensive to say “I raped you” when you know that the insult has about a 1% chance of being uttered to or heard by a woman. Meanwhile I’d say the chances you are playing against a homosexual, a black, or a Hispanic, are probably around 50%, so throwing out “faggot”, “nigger”, or “spic” seems MUCH more offensive in comparison.

By using the word “rape” online people aren’t trying to express the same thoughts, feelings, or actions, as the real-life equivalent. It’s just a word. Just like when people say “faggot”, they aren’t trying to make you feel ashamed for supposedly being attracted to the like sex, its juts a modern day synonym to being a sissy.

I do think rape-culture is a real thing, but im not sure how it factors in here. I don’t think that yelling our “I raped you” online is that much of a moral sin. It’s an empty expression. I was going to say here that it is a problem when you start to make it into a real expression, such as how it’s done in a purposeful and visual way in the Hitman trailer, but I can’t even say that. Rape sexual fantasies are something that both men and women enjoy and are perfectly healthy in a consensual context.

Its only when people who already have violent and criminal feelings towards rape that it’s a problem. That is, when people who are rapists seek out this culture. I wouldn’t say that the guy who put together the Hitman trailer is a rapist, but the guy who found it sexually arousing, and wanted to take out those actions on a real life person is. Obviously not literally in the shoot-everyone-down-in-a-hail-of-bullets, but in a way that expresses NON-consensual sexual assault on another real life person. But in this way rape-culture is only enabling feelings that someone already has, and that’s an issue with that individual, and nothing else.

(I hope this comes across the way I intended and is coherent, I will admit I am not the best writer and my thoughts on this issue are not fully developed or decided. Tristan I would love to read more of what you think on this issue, hopefully you dont read this and think I am an insensitive dumbass, my debating skills have never been too good.)

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June 10, 2012

I agree with you about the Hernandez article; that was very weird how blithe she seemed to be about it... she didn't care about using the word at all, for her own sake, and only stopped using it when she thought of how it might hurt her friend's feelings.  In the end, she blames the other gamers for dragging her down to their level, but I'm not so sure she wasn't there already.  But maybe her lack of sensitivity to the word goes to support your claim that the word in that context bears no relation to the act from which the word originates.  I still find it kind of despicable, because however much the word has lost its meaning by now, we couldn't have gotten to this point without someone, years ago, thinking "I'm going to use the word for sexual assault as a synonym for winning."  (Fuck whoever that was.)  So I still have a distaste for people who use that word in that way, but I'm not gonna demand they stop using it, or demand an apology; I'm fine with just disliking those people.  Simple enough.

Of course I'm a hypocrite, because I say "retarded" to mean "extremely dumb" pretty frequently, so maybe I'm ultimately no better than those gamers.

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June 10, 2012

For me it's the opposite. I'll use the word rape, but I'll never directly say to a team, or individal "I/We raped you." I'll also refer to a disaster as an abortion from time to time. But I absolutely can't stand when people use "retard" or "nigger."

I think it's a just matter of where individuals decide to draw their lines.

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June 14, 2012
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June 14, 2012

I am really looking forward to what will come out of this video project.

Still, I think we are giving way to much attention to internet trolls in this. Clearly, it is disturbing that the author has gotten many threats due to this. This is sadly, not uncommon and not new for the Internet in general. If you stick your nose out and speak your opinion, you are likely to recieve death threats. I have also gotten those. This is a matter not to look upon lightly, but I don't think it is fair to take the gaming community as a whole or the game producers as even partly responsible or as influential of this.

Trit_warhol
June 14, 2012
Thanks for linking to this, Rob. I heard about the attacks on Sarkeesian and felt sick when I saw what they did to her Wikipedia page. The thing I find most frustrating about engaging with this issue is that some think to acknowledge sexism (against women) is to engage in misandry. This has nothing to do with hating men or men doing it tough, it's about a bunch of guys playing on easy that don't want to see that someone's doing more on a harder setting. Thanks also for linking to Sclazi's article. I had read it awhile ago, but still tend to use the term privilege as you don't get far in an argument in Australia by telling someone that they've got it easy (see: satirical Howard billboard campaign used in 2007 federal election). Also, Jeppe, again you've missed the point. The post Rob links to closes with a plea that readers don't dismiss this as "Community X does this" and ackowledge that gaming culture has some very serious problems.
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June 14, 2012

If the point is to try to fight anonymous racists/sexists/idiots on the internet, then it is a noble cause but a tough battle. Still, there is no reason to draw anyone else in to this or take them as partly responsible for sexists idiots that cannot handle that someone is doing a creative project on videogames.
But why should gamers or game producers do anything differently or feel partly responsible, for what random anonymous idiots say on the internet? Should I suddenly dont wanna play the new Hitman game or should the producers change their game, just because of this? That is again giving them way more attention than they deserve.

If someone wants to make games with a different depiction of women, by all means. It might be interesteing and good games, and it might challenge the market or several types of games could coexist. Nothing will be wrong with that.
But instead we see critism and pointy fingers against gamers and produceres in general, trying to say that we have bad taste or should feel ashamed of taking part in hateful sexism, simply because we might be male gamers who don't mind stereotypical sexy women in games as merely a fantasy in a fictional world.

Gaming culture has no problem. There are individual idiots in the community that can be racists/sexists/nazis or whatever, and sadly they can be found anywhere, but no reason to draw everyone else into that. There might be a lack of variaty and lack of creativity in most games, but that is different. That is merely lack of competition or lack of courage from developers to try to target new markets. It doesnt mean the community is sexists or hateful towards women in general.

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November 24, 2012

Maybe I'm just in denial but after some brief introspection, I don't think I am: Maybe I'm just a total psychopath, who subconciously condones all types of violence, sexual or nonsexual without a hint of justification, or maybe the critics of the "hitman nun" trailer are reading too far into it. I mean there was no chauvinism involved at all. Why is it MORE ok for men to kill men than for men to kill women? Neither are ok in a civilized society. But to say that this was somekind of metaphorical/allegorical/effigial nod to some kind of satanic worship of rape ("rape culture") and/or male sexual domination of women is pretty farcical. ;););)

In my all-important rather arrogant opinion, the only mistake IO made was to apologize and change it. Absolutely no remorse was needed. They should have adopted a Tom Araya of Slayer mentality/policy: "We just say "fuck it"...we're not going to pay credence to anything anybody has to say. We just do what WE do."    In fact maybe my response isn't needed here.         #moral nihilism is fun you should try it sometime;)

Trit_warhol
November 24, 2012

Paul, the "fuck it" mentality is pretty commonplace in the gaming community. Your sentiment is echoed through the majority of the comments above. It appears that no amount of evidence, great or small, is going to convince the average gamer that a "rape culture" lies at the heart of our hobby. 

What I will say, or rather point out to you to is this. It's an interview with a former stripper about the Hitman trailer that I sincerely wish was penned around the time I wrote this article. It articulates my problem with the trailer so well, and with none of the vitriol from writers like Brendan Keogh who I referenced in the original piece: http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/11/19/a-stripper-reviews-the-saints-of-hitmen-absolution/

I'd like to draw particular attention to this quote as quite a few who've engaged with this piece have argued that 47 is merely defending himself. The quote puts stark light on how the women initiating violence is used to excuse the sexualised violence in the trailer: 

"I think it’s an excuse to show violence against women by making them the initiators of violence. It’s as if the makers of this video game are saying, “Hey, these women asked for it. It’s okay to kill them and beat them up because they’re the ‘dregs of society.’” It’s as if [the game is saying] they are subhuman and deserve to die. But that’s not who they are, it’s what they do for a living; stripping is a job, not an identity.

I just think it perpetuates hatred of women, because we all know that women who work as strippers and prostitutes are overwhelmingly victims of violence, not perpetrators of it.

Sociologists have found the number one reason women prostitute themselves is because they’re in poverty and don’t have the resources they need. Stripping and prostituting become a way to survive, and to demonize them for that is profoundly misogynistic. It’s bad enough that they need to do this to survive, but to turn them into the enemy…?

It just looks like violence porn to me, and I’m concerned about the minds of men who would come up with a game like this.

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