Sexual preference in Skyrim: "Where my fat chicks at?"

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Wednesday, January 18, 2012
EDITOR'S NOTEfrom Jason Lomberg

Steven makes a good point. Gaming is filled with hard-bodied supermodels, but where are the curvy women? Is Ken Levine right that "people like looking at attractive people"? (based on our culture's predominant perception of the "perfect" woman)

"Umm, what?" I asked my friend in response to a late night text, likely sent from the bar.

"Where are the fat girls in Skyrim?" He replied.

I don't know what was more offensive: my friend's blunt honesty or that I had never noticed his concern. All it took was a drunk text for me to realize I was happy in a world of sexy elves, orcs, and cats.



Well, maybe I did notice. Like when I killed an old witch, stripped her to sheepskin panties (her robes were enchanted, ok?) and marvelled at her pale, dark elven body. This "old hag" had the torso of an Olympic swimmer.

It was strangely attractive. But then I was off to sell her clothes and smith a new axe. I chocked up the sexy models to technical constraints; jiggling fat is a lot harder to animate than stiff muscle.

 

Though, I suppose there have been graphical advancements in Skyrim, like the majestic banners flying in the wind, billowing robes, or my warrior's flowing mane of blonde hair. So, maybe it's less of a tech limitation and more of a design choice.

Ken Levine, co-founder of Irrational Games, responsible for the upcoming Bioshock Infinite, recently complained his fans were too fascinated with the breasts of his new character, Elizabeth. It seems he wants players to look past the voluptuous and beautifully proportioned boobs popping out of her shirt and start discussing the dangers of utopian ideals.

To that I say, "But boobs, Ken, boobs." If you want conversation, put Elizabeth in a turtle neck, not a corset.

One of his arguments is that, generally, people in media are more attractive than the average person. "People like looking at attractive people," Levine says.

But in games like Skyrim, with a myriad of customization, open-world gameplay, and freedom of play style, why keep gamers trapped in the same skinny stereotypes?

If I want to save the world as a 300-pound orc, let me. If I see beauty in a more realistically proportioned wife, why can't I find one? I want my old ladies wrinkly; I want diversity in body types.

You want to know where the fat girls are? They don't exist. And they never will until designers realize we're ready for them. I've tried telling them myself, but it's hard to concentrate when they wave perfect breasts in your face. And you wonder why we don't look you in the eye.

 
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Comments (11)
Dscn0568_-_copy
January 17, 2012

Nice article. I was about to suggest if you wanted to include this in the Bitmob Writing Challenge, but you also have the politics of Skyrim article as well (not that there's a limit to how many entries you could post).

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January 17, 2012
Oh man I meant to tag it in the writing challenge! This challenge has been really inspiring, I hope you guys keep them going in the future!
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January 18, 2012

Thank you for this article. I often wonder about this, heh. So far in my many travels, the only two non-model sized women characters I've found are Olga the Scalawag Wench in World of Warcraft (and someday I will finish writing my "Ode to the Fat Wench of WoW," though really, she isn't fat, just not a size 2 >.>)  and a non-fancy maid looking person in Forsaken World.   Even in very open character creators (like City of Heroes) one cannot make a huge female, only male.   I think it's a shame that a variety of sized characters aren't put into games with large worlds. I get wanting to keep things sexy and idealist, but all the same, esp in a large world (game), I feel it would only make them richer for having variety. Not to mention, not being a model sized human being, having a character I can connect to would mean a deeper experience for me. As much fun as it is to see my only reflections as barmaids and maids... ;)

Lolface
January 19, 2012

This kind of reminds me of Dragon Age. In Origins, Wyne was your healer, and she was old. Once, I accidentally removed her robes and discovered that she had the face of a 60 year old, but the body of 20 year old. It was...odd to say the least.

Then, in Dragon Age II, Flemeth shows up in the beginning, and it's sort of the same thing. Face of a 60 year old, body of a 20 year old.

However, I just started playing Saint's Row 3, and in addition to a sex appeal slider, there is an age slider and body shape slider. So, If you want to play as a busty, fat, 90 year old woman in a bikini, with the voice of a male British ganster, you can.

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January 19, 2012

Didn't Neverwinter Nights have a similar character creation? I have a vague memory of playing a co-op game over LAN, and creating a rather hefty Half-orc female.

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January 19, 2012

Isn't that sort of telling how videogames treat realistic body proportions? To even just have the option (the game doesn't make you play overweight) it takes a game like Saint's Row 3 to do it. It takes a developer making a "crazy ass game" to justify having non-ripped characters. How sad.

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January 20, 2012

Amen Brother! PREACH!

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January 21, 2012
Only the article and question itself has any sexual preference here, Skyrim has none. What is not mentioned at all here is that there also no fat GUYS. Why is no odd bothered by that? Because it doesn't matter either way. We know there wold be complications in having plus size character models, it's not about making everyone look gorgeous. Pick your arguments, people.
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January 23, 2012

Oh, sorry Jamie, I guess when I said I want to play as a 300 pound orc, I meant a male orc, just because I usually male characters, but i like the point you make. Did you ever see the cheat in Uncharted that let you play as an overweight nathan drake? http://www.gamestooge.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/uncharted2_fatdrake.jpg

It's a joke i'm guessing, but why does fat drake have to be a joke?

Also, what kind of complications do imagine arising from having plus sized character models?

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January 23, 2012
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January 23, 2012

8:00 a.m Warm up with some light aimless wandering.

9:00 a.m Stop by the inn and eat a cheese wheel.

10:00 a.m Go exploring outside of town

11:00 a.m to 7:00 p.m Flee from bears/giants

7:30 p.m Cool down with some more aimless wandering around town.

Yup, it's no wonder everyone is in such great shape haha
 

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