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Gaming Journalism May Soon Become a Saturated Field

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Sunday, November 29, 2009

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Editor's note: Michael fears that gaming journalism may soon be overrun by an influx of young writers. He is concerned that the industry will suffer if this next generation fails to bring enough innovation to the field. I hope that his worries don't come true, and the content I read here on Bitmob gives me hope for the future. - Jay


I usually get my gaming news through podcasts such as The Gamespot UK Podcast, Giant Bombcast, the podcasts of the IGN Network, Out of the Game, A Life Well Wasted, 4 Guys 1UP, Retronauts, and Bitmob's very own Mobcast. After I listened to The Gamespot UK Podcast this week, I realized that the bulk of their listeners seem to be aspiring video game journalists.

I clearly recall a time when I included myself in this group of hopefuls. Between late 2005 and early 2007, 1UP.com was filled with exuberance, personality, and -- most important -- alcohol-fueled podcasts. When I listened to the spirited Shane Bettenhausen, Garnett Lee, Luke Smith, and John Davison on the 1UP Yours podcast, I was optimistic about joining their ranks. It seemed like an easy and entertaining job.

 

Now, in 2009, 1UP Yours no longer exists and my hopes of becoming a video games journalist have soured. The closest current successor to 1UP Yours is 4 Guys 1UP, which is currently hosted by David Ellis. Mr. Ellis certainly provides us with an entertaining podcast, but I feel that 4 Guys 1UP lacks the magic of the earlier 1UP Yours.

This magic is also lacking in The Gamespot UK Podcast. This is why I fail to understand how the Gamespot UK crew can serve as an inspiration to young gamers as the hosts of the 1UP Yours podcast did for me. The Gamespot UK Podcast is one of the most dull and overly formal podcasts I have ever listened to.

Within the past two years, I’ve become more sensible and decided that writing about video games probably isn't for me. My research shows that a person in this field makes approximately $25,000 to $55,000 per year. I’m concerned that a large influx of young writers will increase competition and decrease the earnings potential.

I currently see many writers and bloggers between the ages of 14 and 16 who submit content for various websites. It seems that these young potential journalists seek a way to distinguish themselves from the past generations. They don’t want to get stuck trudging through stacks of paperwork on a weekly basis -- they want to feel happy, satisfied, and creative all at the same time, while playing and critiquing video games.

I can imagine that these young writers see games journalism as an escape from the mindless work they face at school. Most of them probably do not earn any money of their own. For them, receiving even a small amount of money to review and write about games seems an attractive possibility. My concern is that they will find out the hard way that this profession may not provide them enough money to be independent adults.

In the title of this article, I suggested that gaming journalism might soon become a saturated field. Recent events, such as the closing of EGM, demonstrate a lack of demand for new gaming-related publications. I have a feeling that a flood of people will soon be looking for work in the industry, but the number of available positions will not grow proportionally.

I don’t think we need any more average gaming journalists; the members of this group seem far too numerous already. What we do need is a group of revolutionaries: people willing to challenge the common practices of the industry and twist them in to something new and exciting. For example, we need to change the way interviews are conducted -- they're far too rote and predictable. Individual personalities should also be encouraged. We don't need a horde of robots speaking in the same, familiar voice.

Gaming journalism needs to change a lot in order to stay relevant and interesting. I hope that all of the growth in this industry will lead to more innovation and clever integration of content. This field has already generated a long list of talented people such as John Davison, Dan Hsu, Crispin Boyer, Greg Miller, Matt Chandronait, James Mielke, Greg Ford, Luke Smith, Shane Bettenhausen, Jay Frechette, Brad Shoemaker, Geoff Keighly, Garnett Lee, Ryan O'Donnell, Jeff Green, Shawn Elliot, Ryan Scott, Robert Ashley, Mike Cruz, Jeremy Parish, Matt Leone, and David Ellis. For this profession to thrive, it needs a new generation of innovators to follow in the footsteps of these industry giants.

 
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Comments (57)
Jayhenningsen
November 29, 2009
[quote]who could forget Bitmob's very own Bitcast[/quote] You might want to check that name again.
Pshades-s
November 29, 2009
I don't know that every listener wants to become a games journalist as much as they want to be in a position to play lots of games and then talk about them. I think you have to really find value in writing if you want to be a journalist. I never gave it much thought until the last year or so when I started writing on my blog about games I was playing, which got me to start contributing to Bitmob. That was the point where I started to wonder if I could seriously pursue a career in writing. I'm still not sure I could cut it at the level those 1UP guys do it but at least now I know that I can write coherent thoughts about games and that someone out there wants to read it.
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November 29, 2009
If you EVER let the thought of what being a member of the enthusiast press pays affect whether or not the job is for you, then you have entirely missed the point.
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November 29, 2009
I want to be a journalist. Writing about games what interests me most, but my greater passion is writing. I don't think this particular field is overflowing, and many of the young writers will either pursue a degree and perfect their craft, or go into something that appeals to their other interests. Journalism is a lot of work. I'm just an intern for this site but I know from the experiences I've had that it takes a certain kind of strength to do this for a living.
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November 29, 2009
@Jasmine Then again, it is an awfully rewarding endeavor to pursue -- hand picking words, then joining those very words to convey a specific thought is like a artsy puzzle. Let me have you know I still do in fact desire to get a degree in English or journalism, but I will not pursue a job as a games journalist. If the opportunity presents itself when I'm in college, or right now, when I'm in high school in fact, I'd be happy. But as a primary profession, no thanks.
Jason_wilson
November 29, 2009
I think the problem is that we have too many game "journalists" and not enough game reporters and editors -- people who research their work, dig for the information, and care and respect the reader enough to present their work in a clear, concise manner. Or at least there aren't enough managers at major outlets that care about this. I'd like to see fewer repromotion of stories from news sites and more of their original reporting. I'm happy if I only got, say, 10 stories from a major news outlet that all contained original reporting instead of 30 rehashed takes on someone else's rehash of someone else's piece.
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November 29, 2009
@Jason: You always voice my opinions better than I can. Or in this case, get to the heart of the matter.
1072475
November 29, 2009
Unfortunately, with the advent of instant news feeds via the Internet, writing and reporting quality has dipped somewhat from the halcyon days of print publishing. Sure, print publications still exist today, but there doesn't seem to be a day going by without hearing how the inevitable demise of paper journalism will only bolster Internet communications. I agree with the comments posited by others that emphasize a knack for writing moreso than an obsession of video games. Becoming a video games journalist certainly ties into playing games to ply your craft; however, having the desire and skill to effectively convey those thoughts and opinions through writing is a crucial technique to have. Like Jasmine, I'm pretty set in becoming a journalist with an emphasis on video games, mostly by nabbing a Journalism degree at college (and probably an internship along the way). Being able to write about what I enjoy best is a bonus, but being able to write at all only lends to increasing my experience in this wonderful field of work.
Jason_wilson
November 29, 2009
@Omri I've been enjoying your pieces lately. Here's a bit of advice from a weary man with a J-degree -- consider receiving your degree in something more useful, with a concentration or minor in journalism. Some journalism programs have a few core classes and require you to take more electives in order to receive a well-rounded education -- course in government/political science, history, economics, etc. If I had a time machine, I'd go back and receive a degree in a science and have a concentration or minor in journalism. Whatever course you take, don't forget to take an advanced course on grammar!
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November 29, 2009
I am going to admit that game journalism is nothing but a pipe dream for myself. It's something that I would love to get into; the same way I would love to become a professional gigolo to the rich and famous, but it's frankly not going to happen. On the other hand I suppose that it couldn't hurt to practice a little bit, just for fun. I believe most people find my writing to be dry and clinical, so I suppose I should move to the UK and become a game journalist there! Joking. What's the harm? At the very least it will get me used to writing before I go back to school as a scarf-wearing poverty stricken student so that I can finish my English degree and get into education. Maybe I can write for the school paper, or something like that. I [i]was[/i] one of the top writers in my high school paper -- though I should mention that out school had a big drug problem...and a big stabbing problem. God, I hope I don't have to teach there after I get my degree.
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November 29, 2009
OH! A quick addendum to my last completely biographical comment. Bitmob is lucky to have a community made up of some of the most polite -- and compared to every other gaming site -- most talented writers on the internet. Not just in the staff mind you, but the contributing community; even if they just add their insightful comments. Now I may have only been reading for a fairly short time, and have joined in an even shorter time, but you are all my own personal game journalists. So pat yourselves on the back, and thank you.
Redeye
November 29, 2009
I at one point had the usual 'this would be a fun job' thought about game journalism. I eventually realised, in my shuffle to find my purpose in life pre and post my one year of college, that I could give a shit about journalism. I don't want to report things. I don't want to inform the reader. I just want to express my own personal opinions on pretty much every subject I have an opinion about. This realisation combined with my love of media storytelling drove me to try more to be a fiction writer then I try to be a games writer. If you look at my posts on this site it's all complaining about something or expressing a creative opinion. All I'm good at is telling people what I think they are doing wrong and then trying egotistically to do it right. The very idea of becoming a games journalist at this point seems stupid to me. I would never be the type of writer who could be taken seriously in that sense. Still the allure of any sort of job that's better then working at a gas station gives me a 'grass is greener on the other side' mentality about it. So every time I post something I naturally wish that I could express myself enough for people to realize I have something to offer outside of just being some sad ass loser who bitches about games. If you are a frequent blog writer on bitmob some part of you wants to be a game journalist. If you are a realistic thinker every other part of you sees the state that the enthusiast press is in lately and knows beyond a shadow of a doubt you are never going to find your place in it. Not only is it a crowded field, but the expectations for quality, focus, and content in that field are just as rigid as any other place with a buisiness to run. Out of all the people posting here. Statistically speaking very few will find themselves in any way benefiting from it in a career sense. Bitmob is a sea of hopefuls slapping themselves for caring so much about this gauntlet of a writing space. A cadre of warriors throwing themselves at the vicious hydra of success and relevance. At the very least theirs plenty of good reading and nice people in between the severed limbs flying around as people get flayed by their own hopes. Pessimism over. Lets all dance!
Jayhenningsen
November 29, 2009
[quote]Bitmob is a sea of hopefuls slapping themselves for caring so much about this gauntlet of a writing space. A cadre of warriors throwing themselves at the vicious hydra of success and relevance.[/quote] I can't speak for everyone else, but I don't fit that characterization. I post articles and comments here simply because I love the community. I'm not striving to break in to the field or struggling to be successful or relevant. This is not to say that I would turn down any opportunities that came my way, but that's not my main focus for participating here. Nice imagery, though. ;)
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November 29, 2009
@Jay I second that. I've got a great job that I love, I'm just here to have some fun and read some quality community stuff. I think there's more room for growth in gaming publications-- just not in the economy we're in now. Give it five years. Also, the great thing about bitmob is it's a free shot. Write your best stuff up and maybe you'll get recognized. You never know...
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November 29, 2009
@Jeffrey I don't think EVERYONE here really wants to be a game journalist. Despite what a stereotypical construction worker type father might say to the contrary, writing for a living is hard work. Anyone with an ounce of self-criticism worth a damn can tell you that. I don't think I will ever be a game journalist, because it is a shrinking field and there are a lot of people who are a lot better than me or anyone else. I just think that the bitmob community is really trying to do well (for whatever reasons they may have), and for my tastes they are doing a great job. I think [i]most[/i] of the people posting regularly are at least decent game journalists; they are just not getting paid for it. To do even a decent job at something you are passionate about and [b]not[/b] get paid is both respectable and remarkable. Good job folks! Finally on to [b]Michael Lenoch[/b]. Don't get a big head about this, but you have restored just a little bit of my faith in people younger than me. I am only six years older than you, which to someone six years older than me might seem like a small amount, but you are a damned good writer for someone at your stage. I really hope you keep it up, because from the little bit I have seen you are on the right track to do really well. You also sound like you have a passion for it, which is more important than your already evident skill. Keep in mind it is a complete nobody saying this to you, but hopefully a somebody will take notice in time. Thanks again, everyone!
Untitled
November 29, 2009
I am currently in the second/final year of my journalism program and I have decided to try and get into the video game industry in some way. Whether it be a journalist or working in Public Relations for a developer. This wasn't a decision I made without much time soul searching. I have spent a lot of time writing about politics and local news and I have to say that even though the articles I was writing were good, I just wasn't happy with what I was doing. Part of me felt like I was going to turn into a non-profitable Lewis Black by the time I was 35 if I was to continue down that path. That was my lame attempt at humor. Sorry. It wasn't until I had the chance to interview the Leaner Manager of my school's Video Game Arts and Design Program that I started to think about becoming a games journalist. He asked me If I had thought about it. I told him it hadn't really crossed my mind and he then told me of possible career paths I could take. With that in mind, I had written a few gaming related stories and was quite pleased with them but I still wasn't sure if becoming a games journalist was the right move since I figured getting a job at a newspaper would likely be a safer choice. Then I had the chance to interview one of Sega's producers. He was in town to give a presentation to the Video Game Arts and Design Program. After about an hour or so conversation, he had told me about his time in the games journalism field when he was an editor for EGM. It was after that I made up my mind. Sure it has both its ups and downs but that is life. I couldn't imagine another field where I could feel more happy to be a journalist. Since then I have written more gaming related stories and have also begun writing here on Bitmob. I love writing reviews and editorials but I also love doing interviews and taking photos. I would love to eventually write for a magazine or website, even if I have to write for various other media outlets before I can do it.
Brett_new_profile
November 29, 2009
Journalism -- particularly video game journalism -- is rapidly evolving, which means that even as the old form dies, something new and still unformed is rising up to replace it. Whether that's good or bad for prospective writers, I just don't know yet. What I do know is that if you put effort and care into your writing, enjoy yourself, and have a backup plan (which is why I agree with Jason: stay away from a J degree), you'll be ready for anything life throws your way.
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November 29, 2009
Isn't all of journalism a saturated field with the advances of the internet? Everyone is saying something about everything. Twitter, Facebook, blogs. Not just gaming news but all news. It is an information overload.
Jason_wilson
November 29, 2009
@David I don't know if most of the "journalism" online is really journalism. Most of it is error-ridden diarrhea of the keyboard.
Jayhenningsen
November 29, 2009
@Jason - Stop giving me more reasons to love you. "Error-ridden diarrhea of the keyboard" is the best phrase I've read all day.
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November 29, 2009
@Jason-In this day and age, journalism isn't so clear cut anymore. With stations like Fox News and the fact that people are getting their news more and more from the internet and less from mainstream media outlets means journalism has become much more ambiguous. [quote]Bitmob is a sea of hopefuls[/quote] I don't know if I would agree with that. I have aspirations to be a lawyer, this site is just a nice place to hang out. I can't speak for anyone else though.
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November 29, 2009
Twitter and Facebook are putting poison in the coffee of language a little bit each day. As much as I am a game snob I am also a bit of a language snob, and seeing formerly respectable news sources (well... they may have been 30 years ago) encouraging their audiences to follow things like Twitter is distressing. It is things like this that is hammering shut the coffin of print. That is why this unlikely passion for actual journalism and reporting in the game industry is so important. It might be a losing battle, but it's fought by people who seem to care about reaching the audience without dumbing down their content; Mostly, anyway. That is why I refuse to abbreviate my sentences online, even if it's an instant messenger conversation. ... OMG! My cat is on fire! BRB! Always end on a joke; am I right?
Jason_wilson
November 29, 2009
@David The forms of journalism may not be so clear-cut anymore, but the basics of journalism -- its principles -- remain the same: a duty to tell the truth, to research your facts and back them up, to not steal from other people's work. Libel is "knowing or reckless disregard for the truth" (one of many definitions), and I certainly see that in much of online journalism (mostly reckless, though sometimes knowing). That's why online journalism troubles me -- that and that many online writers don't know how to use commas and coordinating conjunctions together or the difference between it's and its.
1072475
November 29, 2009
@Ryan It's always a pleasure to see someone with such drive and resolve to realize their passion through their work. Keep at it, and although everyone is right here when saying that journalism is a tough gig, perseverance and practice will pay off.
Untitled
November 29, 2009
@Omri Thank you. That is almost exactly what every journalist who has visited our class has said. The job market is tough all over. The Key is to be able to expand your skills and be able to adapt to all kinds of different media. If you do that you should be able to find work somewhere.
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November 29, 2009
I am hoping to pursue a career in video game journalism.When I go to university next year I hope to do a course in Journalism and New Media.This is the only Journalism course available in the University.I want to be a games journalist because,it is quite frankly the only job where I can't imagine myself being bored. I can't write too much at the moment because of school work,but I am hoping to be able to refine my writing over the next few years. That's a lot of hope.
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November 29, 2009
It's kind of like game journalism is the new rapper/basketball player.
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November 30, 2009
I must make this clear -- it's not that I wouldn't enojoy being a video game journalist, should I decide to enter that field, nor would my interest hinge based on the salary I would receive, but rather, I think by attending a college prep school, and [hopefully] attending a highly-regarded college in the near future, there's more to life than playing games for a living. I'm confident I'm not alone in having parents that scoff at my gaming habits, no matter how infrequent they may be. I'm not trying to impress my parents by at least attempting to become a CEO of a multi-million-dollar corporation (not to say that I am), but I think there would be more enjoyable avenues for me to pursue later on in life. For example, much like school, balance is good. There are objective classes, and there are subjective classes. While I may be submitting myself to a bit of conformity (by becoming more of a worker rather than a thinker), I would prefer a profession that would mix creativity and objectivity, while being gratifying just as school -- and I feel that job, with its faults and all, exists somewhere out there. It's merely my job to seek it. I think I can benefit society by using the priveleges I've been granted to the fullest -- no matter what occupation I choose, I still have the ability to play video games, just not as regularly. And I'm fine with that. And if this sort of dream job that I'm seeking isn't as expected, I could always become a part-time freelance writer for a video game outlet, or any other sort of media publication for that matter. Those are my intentions, and I'm sticking to them. If you want to become a video game journalist, more power to you!
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December 09, 2009
I'm fairly convinced that in an industry like games journalism, the proficient will float to the top. There doesn't seem to be the inherent caste system that's a little more endemic to newspapers or something to that effect. So, regardless of the "sea of hopefuls" or whatever, I'm just going to put out as much good content as I can and hope for the best. If people like reading what I write, that'll be my path to the top. At least in that case, I'll be adding something to the conversation, which is something that all creative communities require.
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December 09, 2009
What utter garbage. So basically--this is a middle-school level [s]essay[/s] confused thing that mixes: -Loads of name-dropping -Your own useless critique of what podcasts "lack magic" -Vague ideas about interviews that are too "rote and predictable" without citing any examples -Mega-vague statements like [i]"Gaming journalism needs to change a lot in order to stay relevant and interesting."[/i] -"Best-guesses"/vague anecdotes that you're trying to pass as actual research for what's happening in "our field" +[i]"My research shows that a person in this field makes approximately $25,000 to $55,000 per year"[/i] +[i]"I currently see many writers and bloggers between the ages of 14 and 16 who submit content for various websites."[/i] +[i]"I have a feeling that a flood of people will soon be looking for work in the industry, but the number of available positions will not grow proportionally."[/i] PERHAPS YOU COULD HAVE INTERVIEWED SOMEONE. Then, you might've had something to actually build an article around than your own self-indulged concept of what writing about games is like. My favorite part is the end, though--a paragraph where you name-drop [s]your favorite[/s] writers you deem to be talented. Is this valuable information for anyone but yourself? All you've demonstrated is that your interest in writing/people writing about games has made you capable of writing nothing more than a masturbatory love-letter to the "gaming journalism celebrities" the you've generated in your mind.
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December 09, 2009
Sounds like what you're looking for in game journalism is [i]journalism[/i]. Yes it's an entertainment industry, but that doesn't mean we can't have strong writing, good reporting, and thought-provoking features. As it is now, many interviews are boring--typical questions and safe answers--and most previews boil down to "this is so awesome!" Not to mention all the lame "funny" articles packed with off-color humor, tired references and in-jokes, and writing cliches. Game journalism is still very young, and I don't think it's going away, but I do think it needs to grow up a little.
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December 09, 2009
The problem I see with today's writers is the lack of perspectives when conveying their opinions. Not all, but many video game websites all adhere to the hardcore view nd never tackle stories from a different viewpoint. One reason for my growing list of contributions is the belief that I can offer a different and new perspective because of my diverse background and business experience.
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December 09, 2009
The field is already oversaturated, and it has nothing to do with podcast audiences. I'd honestly be surprised if even ten percent of any podcast's audience seriously entertains the thought of game journalism as a career. At the professional level there are already not enough full time opportunities to go around and, as you note, big closures merely exacerbate this problem. And, sadly, there is a glut of volunteer websites that will pay nothing for young writers with a dream but also give them nothing in the way of training or editing. What you are describing is not the future, it's the state of the business right now.
Demian_-_bitmobbio
December 09, 2009
@EJL Critique is encouraged, but we also encourage you to use your full name, rather than initials. Thanks.
Andrewh
December 09, 2009
I don't think a new generation is needed. I do think that the factors that decide how games writing is presented and who does the writing need to change. Bitmob shows that the insight, the inspiration, the motivation, and the creativity required for great writing is still out there, albeit it a raw form. (Which kind of makes reading Bitmob exciting by itself!) However the patience, the concern, and the wherewithal to provide great content is exactly the opposite qualities required for a site to stay "relevant". And EJL is not very nice, and that type of comment isn't appreciated.
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December 09, 2009
Austin D Light wrote: [i]"Game journalism is still very young, and I don't think it's going away, but I do think it needs to grow up a little. "[/i] I'd really love it if gamers would stop pretending that their medium is so young that it can be forgiven sins. People have been writing about games since the early 80s and it has changed dramatically in that time - from mere description in the early Computer Gaming Worlds to serious business reporting and critical thought. You have a greater variety of coverage now than ever. The fact is, even as so much games coverage is driven by the 24 hour gaming news cycle and the NPD horserace, there is a lot of mature games writing on the internet and there was in some now defunct magazines. In short, games journalism *has* grown up, but the topic is still largely confined to the enthusiast press and most of the readers who drive traffic show very little interest in talking about it when previews, reviews and dogs on skateboards get more hits.
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December 09, 2009
Tis why i was going for strictly editing; it seems like everybody with a console to write now. Just because you play the games to garner that experience and can write well, does not mean that you know the rules of journalism. Not all writing is journalistic, and just because you *can* write does not automatically mean you are a full fledged "journalist." ...There are other ways to work and write within the industry though, right?
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December 09, 2009
@EJL I cannot agree with you more. Perhaps your words were a bit sharp, but there is no denying that the level of writing, and lack of research in this "essay" is reprehensible. I shudder to think of a future where this could be considered an editorial even, let alone journalism.
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December 09, 2009
Do you think as videogames diversify (ie: the Wii/DS generation, if I may), the same will go for the gaming journalism as a whole? Not saying videogame journalism needs to be dumbed down, but maybe more publications/websites will cater to casual gamers, thus creating job positions for those who are not hardcore gamers at heart?
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December 09, 2009
Is this better? I thought my login name was my printed name, apologies. Anyway, this is just evidence that the phrase "gaming journalist" needs to go away. Like www.twitter.com/danamrich said: "Saving the princess three months early does not make you a rockstar." The author of this post has a lot of people that've written for EGM/1UP/other outlets that he appreciates, but he never actually says why.
Andrewh
December 09, 2009
@Evan I agree Evan, that games journalist is a totally misused phrase. I like to say "games writing" myself. Much better. I have found in the past that most of these journalists tend to do a lot of reviews, which is kind of misrepresenting the purpose of a critique. Which totally makes sense, as reviews tend to read like consumer reports. Previews are in the same boat, but people tend to associate that type of article with subjectivity even less. It's a totally weird thing that goes on in games writing, and I don't approve, whatsoever. I will step in here and provide a comment, although I don't speak for Mike. I found that 1up, at least in the past as I don't really follow the site anymore, emphasized personal opinion and subjectivity in their reviews and previews. And I appreciated that. And I found their writers were better for it, on the whole.
Jason_wilson
December 09, 2009
@Troy I agree that the medium is no longer "young" and that too many people use that as an excuse to gloss over its issues. What saddens is me is your point that too much emphasis lies in previews, reviews, and dogs on skateboards. While I have no real evidence to back this up other than my 11 years of journalism experience and the judgment that comes from this, I'd say the majority of "game" news online isn't really news.
Andrewh
December 09, 2009
@Jason. I've always wonder what the ratio in "the whole of video games on the internet" is linked articles to original content. And, in terms of original content, I've always wondered what the ratio of press release/uninformative tidbits/etc to actual worthwhile reporting was.
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December 09, 2009
EJL, while I agree with some of your points, I think it's cowardly to call someone out when you don't even use your full name.
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December 09, 2009
I agree with Evan Lahti. I read this article and thought it was horrible. But I feel you wasted your time Evan. Constructive criticism only goes so far before you just have to throw it away and start all over. I believe the only way to clean up the Signal vs. Noise ratio is not to put out noise in the first place. Clean up the writing. Teenagers should not be “Games Journalists” as much as they should not be writers for the LA Times. They do not have enough experience in critical thinking, reasoning or any kind of writing to be able to contribute any kind of signal to look for. On that note, writing for Joystiq or Kotaku is not journalism. Most aspiring Games Journalists do not even realize they are simply regurgitating industry news instead of articulating and expanding on their thoughts on a game. A monkey can retype stories for clicks. Schooling and experience makes you better writer. Period. I think its time we stop coddling these kids and start taking Video Game Journalism seriously. Demian and Shoe, its ok to be heavy handed. You guys can make a great website but keep the 1up-ers or Joystiq-ers off of it! Promote the intelligent and insightful writers. I want to think. I want to discuss. I want to argue. So far, you guys are a great job of providing this. Maybe even start charging a monthly fee to keep the enthusiasts off of this site. If I could pay to have you guys read my work and critique it to make me a better writer I would do it in a heart beat. I don’t even care about making it to the front page of the site. Keep up the great work with the site, Demian. Evan, you rock in the PCGamer mag and on Podcast. i never miss an issue or a 'cast.
Jason_wilson
December 09, 2009
@Andrew Maybe we should find a slow week and count the pieces from major operations and see what's what.
Jason_wilson
December 09, 2009
@Brian [quote]Is this better? I thought my login name was my printed name, apologies.[/quote] Evan just confused how naming works on Bitmob. I do not believe anonymity was his intent.
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December 09, 2009
Jason Wilson wrote: [i]What saddens is me is your point that too much emphasis lies in previews, reviews, and dogs on skateboards. While I have no real evidence to back this up other than my 11 years of journalism experience and the judgment that comes from this, I'd say the majority of "game" news online isn't really news.[/i] I really have no problem with previews and reviews and even dogs on skateboard - evaluating the medium is one of our major jobs as writers and dogs on skateboards are cute. But this is not only the easy stuff - it is the stuff that gets passed around and commented on. When a writer does work on, say, an original column or an in-depth feature, the usual response of readers is to skip it altogether or complain that these are only games and therefore not worth so much heavy thinking. (Check any story ever written about sex or sexuality in gaming for evidence.) The lighter stuff has its place in the industry, and lets be frank - games writing is Variety at best and TMZ at the worst. We're entertainment media. But back to the original article, as much as I love 1up and EGM and all you guys, Mr. Lenoch's list implies that only one publisher was doing good work over the last few years and that almost everybody on staff was the epitome of the profession. If you're going to insert an odd paragraph like that, Evan is right - at least you could explain why they kicked ass.
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December 09, 2009
Wow....and I thought I was jaded. I'm even touching young Michael's piece. And I'm talking about the comments. @Michael As has been stated before, this niche in journalism has always been limited and saturated. Truth is, aside from maybe in the dot-com bubble before the burst, there are probably more opportunities now than before in spite of notable layoffs. Always remember that demand you see waning now expanded from something less this to get to it's peak. And as is the case with most industries, it'll probably go back up as economy eventually turnaround in it's usual cycle. And to point to something Jason's harping on, there is indeed are a lot of amateur writing on blogs and small outlets that aren't that great. Really with a lot of emerging online media, there's a lot of green writers trying their hand either as purely a hobby or as people trying to put their work out there to be noticed. What Jason appears to overlook is [i]that's[/i] nothing new either. Plenty of people have come and gone from the games press after starting working on fan sites. I'm not sitting on a book of stats right now so I'm going anecdotal evidence from my past reading and podcast listening, but many untrained journalists came into working for the press off their general skills as writers and/or other skills useful to a website or magazine. Now it's just easier to self-publish or get pulled in by one of those volunteer websites Troy mentioned that doesn't nothing to improve the writers. Don't get me wrong. I'm not diminishing Jason's points of learning the craft of writing, reporting and knowing the basics. For the love of God, know that much. But talent is talent. A good editor can help a teachable writer refine those things. Though I do find this notion of reporting on minor sites versus major sites laughable. Nearly ever major website, excepting something along the lines of a Gamasutra, is beholden to the preview and review cycles as well as press releases. Very little news really is ever really broken and most of the other content is features. Not a complaint, I'm a features or writers primarily.
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December 09, 2009
@Andrew Hiscock dude, you hit it right on the head. When the word "writing" is used in the industry, most people think of it in the literal sense and never in the philosophical sense of the word. The word gets thrown around more often then a beach ball at a baseball game. I also agree with the old 1up.com having a personality and that being a major point of why i enjoyed listening to them and reading their work.
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December 09, 2009
Well, that Tab+Ent combination was an accident. Eh, I meant "Not a complaint, I'm a features writers primarily." I'm done
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December 09, 2009
I don't think Michael Lenoch is some paragon of writing or anything, but for a guy in high school he should make most of you feel better for the future. Most kids in high school can barely compose a paragraph.
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December 09, 2009
I am graduating in May with a journalism degree. I went for journalism in order to help craft something that was already a passion of mine: writing. Call me old school, but I still believe the journalism field will come out ahead overall. Yes, online JRN is not as credible as print most of the time, but I believe this is due to the readers not seeking out the credible sources. There is so much content out there. Readers are bombarded with blogs and actual news at the same time, with no knowledge how to judge each for what it is. One is an opiniated, yet possibliy informative structured rant, and the other is your credible news piece. This is just an example. I say we just have to give the journalism some time to find itself again. Until then, I'll wait patiently and try to help it along in my own way. It's up to us you know.
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December 10, 2009
@Evan Sorry for my incorrect assumption.
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December 10, 2009
@Mauricio I agree with you, except when it comes to schooling. A number of college students could care less about what they learn. Many of them are just there to party, and they manage to get by through cheating or other means.
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December 10, 2009
@Brian Shirk well, lets hope they don't aspire to be gaming journalists like every other gaming slacker! haha jk
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December 10, 2009
Journalism as we know it seems to be it's way out. Similar to the music industry and network television the world is moving too fast for journalism to keep up. There's no telling what fads will be worth supporting and what will wither and die in a few months time.

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