When Will Gamers Wake Up to the Wii?

Alexemmy
Tuesday, March 09, 2010

Wii Gun Collection. Hardcore enough?When the Wii was about to release, it was popular opinion amongst game journalists that not only will people who've never been gamers own one, but it will sit alongside the PS3/360 in hardcore gamer houses as well. While I'm pretty sure that's the case nowadays -- as it would explain the ridiculous Wii sales numbers -- it doesn't seem to be translating to the game's sales.

This generation of gaming has been drastically different from those of the past. The Xbox 360 is turning five years old in November -- an age that usually means the death of a video game console -- and a successor has yet to be even announced. The industry is finding new ways to remain profitable at a time when the economy is hurting and people aren't rushing to buy frivolous things like new game consoles.

This sort of thing is playing out in development houses as well. The exclusive title is almost non-existent. In the past, third party companies would frequently pick a system and develop only for that. Ever play a Final Fantasy or Mega Man game on your Sega Genesis? Nope, because Squaresoft and Capcom were dead set on sticking to Nintendo, and didn't shop their games around to other systems.

Dead Space: ExtractionNow, however, pretty much anything that isn't from a first or second party developer is spread out to every platform available. But one place this isn't happening is on Wii. Companies like EA are making Wii-specific prequels -- like Dead Space: Extraction -- to their franchises instead of porting over the original games. This is entirely because of the radically different control scheme and processing power. Yet, third parties aren't just releasing shitty versions of their big titles, they are thinking outside the box to make full use of the Wii.

Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, Dead Space: Extraction, Zack & Wiki, MadWorld, No More Heroes, Fragile Dreams, House of the Dead Overkill, Boom Blox, De Blob, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, A Boy and his Blob, etc. -- Coupled with all of Nintendo's releases -- Metroid: Other M, Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Zelda, Punch-Out!, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Paper Mario, Wario Land: Shake It, etc. You're telling me that isn't a good enough line-up for the "hardcore" to jump on?

Wake up, people! Dead Space: Extraction sold something like 9,000 copies in the first month despite rave reviews nearly across the board. Just look at all of these 80-100 scores, and tell me that isn't a game that the hardcore gamer would want to play. You own the system already! Dust it off and start using it as the companion piece that game journalists once thought it could be. It has certainly held up it's end of the bargain, now it's our turn.


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N712711743_851007_3478
March 09, 2010

The short answer may be "never".

I came to the same conclusion you did a while back; my 360 decided it needed to suicide on me, leaving me with only just the Wii as a stalwart companion until I could afford to replace my Xbox.  What I found was almost all of the aforementioned games above, how great they where and also bitter taste in my mouth because people can't look past graphical fidelity for solid game play.

I'm not saddened by people who feel the need to entitle themselves "hardcore" and don't give a rat's ass about the Wii; I'm saddened that their blatant disregard means I'll get screwed out of follow ups to Dead Space: Extraction, A Boy and His Blob and Mushroom Men.

Jason_wilson
March 09, 2010

The Wii is a lot of fun, and it's sad that people can't look past its limited visual oomph. It also has the best download platform for consoles with WiiWare and the Virtual Console. It's a good little machine. 

Bman_1a
March 09, 2010

@Matthew - If your 360 had never died, would you have bothered with Wii? I don't think the issue is as simple as that hoary old "hardcore" elitism.

The problem with the Wii being positioned as a secondary system is that people often won't turn to it when their primary is churning out games they want. I know I haven't. When I got a PS3 it became the centre of my gamelife - not because I had anything against Wii. I don't think this is an identity issue or a graphics issue, at least not for me. Partly it's a limited budget - I wanted No More Heroes 2, but I wanted Darksiders and Bayonetta more. It's not a question of whether or not there are "hardcore" games on the Wii, but can the Wii get the attention of the people who'd love those games away from the system they're playing.

5211_100857553261324_100000112393199_12455_5449490_n
March 09, 2010

Brendon:  Highly improbable, since most of the boasting that empowers videogame sales is centered around how pretty the game is.  How many people they play with simultaneously online.  Other things that should be secondary to actually enjoying gameplay, and not the focus of the Wii system at all.  In fact, it's almost directly inverted.

I find "hardcore" gamers to be handicapped in this manner.  It's not cool to play Wii?  Cool.  More for me.

Jayhenningsen
March 09, 2010

I got a Wii before I got a 360 or a PS3. I still play all three systems. My own selfishness is greater than any attachment I have to a particular brand. If I enjoy the game, I'll play it regardless of the system it is on.

There184
March 09, 2010

@Matthew Maybe?

I'll probably get one with a copy of Silent Hill: Shattered Memories just as soon as I have a job. So long as I can find some inexpensive way of connecting it to my PC monitor. That is the first game that has made me want a Wii.

Default_picture
March 09, 2010

I own one, but don't play it ...

Default_picture
March 09, 2010

I own one, but don't play it ...

Me_and_luke
March 09, 2010

Is graphical fidelity really the Wii's biggest crutch?  I couldn't care less.  Brendon actually brings up a good point.  There are so many games for so many consoles to choose from these days that it can be both tough to keep up as well as manage your gaming expenses.  I having a much bigger wishlist for my 360 than I do my Wii, and when I finish one game for the 360, I generally have another one to move on to.  Consequently, I continuously get more and more behind on Wii games to the point that I just stop caring.

It would be remiss of me, however, if I didn't also mention that my primary turn-off of the Wii is the Wiimote and motion control.  The Wiimote was optimized (keyword: optimized) for Wii Sports... and nothing else.  Frankly, everything feels better with a conventional controller, and motion control all too often feels like a tacked-on obligation.

I think one of Nintendo's biggest mistakes this generation is virtually neglecting WiiWare.  XBLA is one of my favorite new things of this generation, and outside of a few gems (World of Goo, Bit Trip games [fortunately, there are some good-looking upcoming titles]), there's been next to nothing on WiiWare.  And Nintendo does zero marketing with the service or any of the games, which certainly doesn't help.

Img950653
March 09, 2010

Gotta agree with Bryan on this one. Nintendo's lack of dedication to hardcore fan services like WiiWare ("hardcore" meaning "people who buy more than one game a year") seems uninviting for gamers like me who don't have the money to buy all three systems, let alone shell out for all the games you mentioned.

Nintendo's strategy is a brilliant one: instead of courting a comparatively small, dedicated fanbase who spends a lot on video games, they've succeeded in courting everyone - Mom, Dad, Grandma, Grandpa, your girlfriend etc. These people (the Wii's primary userbase, whether you like it or not) don't demand the same sort of services, updates and titles that, say, the XBL community does. So Nintendo doesn't give it to them. Their bread and butter is their hardware. How many Wii owners have more than 3 games, compared to XB360/PS3 owners?

Default_picture
March 09, 2010

I was a three-console guy during the last generation - the really good games were exclusives that were spread pretty evenly across all three platforms.  Conversely, I find that my "problem" with this console generation is that all three of them have incredibly compelling lineups that can completely dominate one person's attention.  

For me it's the 360, as I got it first - four years ago this month, actually - and I now have 69 games for it (including XBLA games).  Compare that to the 9 games I've played on my PS3 in the past year-plus, and I simply haven't been able to justify spending the money on a Wii vs. the amount of time I'd likely spend playing it.

On top of that, I just haven't been "grabbed" by the Wii's motion control in the limited time I've spent playing it at parties and such.  For someone like me, it's going to be much easier, and require much less of a commitment, to wait to jump into motion control with Natal or the PS3's Wands instead of buying a whole new system.

N712711743_851007_3478
March 09, 2010

@Alex: The short answer is "yes".

I picked up a Wii at launch; even though I find some of Nintendo's ideologies and decisions questionable, at the end of the day I wanted one because I knew they delivered the goods on software.

What losing my 360 did was open my eyes to the greatness of many third-party games, now that I had the time to really dig in because it was my sole means of gaming.

My Wii isn't a secondary system; it's as important to me as my Xbox.  I think the problem for it is it's perception, to be honest.  A game like Dead Space: Extraction was built with more ardent gamers like pretty much anyone who frequents this site. We know mom and dad aren't gonna buy it; but if we don't, than why should third parties even bother making them?

It drives me nuts that so many people can be so hypocritical about not having games "made for them" but then never picking up the ones that are.

There184
March 09, 2010

Sorry, here's the image that makes that make sense.

Default_picture
March 09, 2010

I think the hardcore HAVE woke up to the Wii, and most of them give a resounding "No thanks".

 

Yeah, I own a Wii. I purchased Tatsunoko vs Capcom and Endless Ocean 2 most recently for it. I still hardly play it in comparison to my PS3. As much as there ARE good "hardcore" games for the Wii, there are simply too few to give the console much play time.

Why are gamers not buying Dead Space Extraction? Twofold. The people who really care about it already have Dead Space. It also does not help that people are a teensy bit sick of guided shooters on the Wii. The genre is a little played out by now.

The Wii is decent, but 90% of the games I want to play on the system I would rather play with a normal controller. Easily. That is one of the limiting factors for me to start it up and play a game. I am much happier going through my PS3/PS2/360 backlog. Than trying to wrestle with a Wiimote.

 

It's a good little system, I guess, but most of the hardcore I have spoken to over the past couple years just find it desperately lacking in content compared to the other two consoles on the market.

I am not trying to troll here, just speaking from my own experience. There are some Wii games I adore, but nearly every one makes me wish I was playing it on a console other than a Wii.

Default_picture
March 10, 2010

Man, I'm glad that some notable RPG developers will be showing the Wii some love soon. Soon we'll have Tales of Graces (assuming it comes here), Hironobu Sakaguchi's The Last Story, and Xenoblade, which might be related to the Xenosaga series. 

Even without those, there are numerous Wii games I'd like to own, but honestly, I don't know if I'll have the money this year. If that changes, I plan on purchasing as many as I can, but I might just have to rent out of necessity.

Alexemmy
March 10, 2010

@Brian - I believe Xenoblade is entirely unrelated to Xenosaga, they just stuck the name on because it's by the same guy and it'd help get attention.

Lance_darnell
March 10, 2010

I don't own a Wii. I think I still have a serious case of Nintendoverload from the N64 and Gamecube days. I still love Nintendo, but I don't even know what would make me buy another Nintendo system. Perhaps Nintendogs for the Wii.

 

Robsavillo
March 10, 2010

My problem with the Wii is the lack of variable-control support. I'm not playing Punch Out!! or New Super Mario Bros. Wii with a sideways Wiimote, which just feels like a half-assed effort on Nintendo's part.

At least ChunSoft was listening with Shiren the Wanderer!

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